[ILOVEJAPAN]

There are manga (mainly less mainstream, more underground type stuff) that have styles that are nowhere near anything close to what you see in main-stream manga. With stuff like this you wouldnt be able to tell if the art was Japanese, American, European, etc. However, since most people who call themselves "otaku" (at least in the US, where I am) only watch what they see on adults swim, or read what they can find in scanlations. So they dont really bother to look at wider varietys of anime and manga, and dont really know what they are talking about.

I think the problam with most american anime/manga is that the creators try to draw/write somthing that they think a Japanese author would write instead of doing anything original or interesting.

Im sorry for being so harsh, but somtimes it frustrates me how ignorent modern otaku can be of anything old, or not main-stream.

Edit: I hope its clear that I am not acusing anyone here of being this way, just the way the conversation was going remindeded me of some people I know...