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Originally Posted by Suki
Yeah there's that video on youtube also (Do You Like Japan? Japan Doesn't Like You!).
I know it's not fully truth cause everyone I know who's been to Japan says they're nice people, but Japanese don't usually like having stuff to do with other races. I know people who are graduated in Translation and Interpreting and they can't get a fucking job cause the Japanese won't work with anyone who comes from a different country, so they've been studying Japanese for 5 years in University and what for? Cause they don't seem to be good enough to be trusted, only because they were not born in the same place. That's racism right there.
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If your going to school in Japan or for International relations, be ready to get a job in a company that needs it.
Japanese will generally not hire foreigners for a job that a Fluent Japanese person can do better.
There is a big social part of business that people dont realize. Hence if they have 2 people applying for the same job one japanese one not.
The Japanese person will most times then not be better at socialization and conversation.
Therefore they would be a better candidate for the job. There is a relationship building within the japanese business world, and you have to understand its more safe for a company to choose a Japanese person over a foreigner who studied japanese for 5 years.
There is a big difference between people who speak the language natively and people who learn to speak the language.
And when you understand that, you will see it from the Japanese point of view, rather then the other perspective of just calling them racist.
Your friends need apply to positions that are LOOKING for foreigners.
example
You own a multi million dollar widget company.
Its KEY that your business associates are fluent in the language and know a great deal of business and have schooling in it.
You know that the next worker you higher, must be educated and fluent in the language, but not only that know the right etiquette for interacting with not only co workers but potential clients.
After work employee interaction is all about building trust and team work.
you have 2 applicants
one American, one Japanese.
do you A
Hire the native speaking Japanese person who has gone to school for the same major as the American applicant.
or B
Hire the American who has studied Japanese and businesses? And train him about the etiquette for business interactions.
Note
In Japan and MANY other countries English is a required language to learn.
In America Japanese is an elective in SOME schools.
You call that racism, but i call that a good business choice.
in the high pace world of international and local businesses, there are more important decisions to make then to decide whether to take a risk in hireing a non native speaker
FURTHERMORE
A lil fact about Japanese culture.
Due to server over crowding and the massive amounts of people who DO go to school and look for jobs.
Japan is a place where you'll find people with masters degrees Driving taxis and doing jobs less deserving then their degree.
Talk bout bull shit, you go to school for all your life then 4 years of college to have NO job.
America has job opportunities out the ass!
For christ sake, check out the reasons why Japan is the top suicide nation in the world.
YOU will find a few of my points in there.
No hope for future after pouring your heart and soul into school.
and people are pissed b/c they are giving Japanese people jobs over Foreigners?
once again, get over your selves.
as for the Video mentioned, i saw the video.
And since my 8 trips back to Tokyo, living here and travling around. I've yet to see any of those signs aside from ONE Onsen.
ONE, and it merely said no tattoos. not no foreigners, thats the closest thing i have found.
In order to score a job in japan, you must be ready to do your home work and find places that are hiring foreigners or fluent English speakers.
Dont expect to go into a Japanese company throw your application down and automatically get a job.
There are MANY more applications who are equally qualified but speak the language better.
And when you realize really how important after work socialization is you'll start to understand.
Come to japan
walk out on a Friday night around 10pm.
See how many Salarymen are out and about partying.
THEY ARE BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, its very important to build that kind of closeness and trust with the people you work.
It is easier for Japanese to converse and get along with other Japanese.
This isnt RACISM
once again this is Smart business decisions and they are protecting their interest and on top of that they have pride in their nation to give their own people who desperately NEED jobs a chance to work.
Im very passionate about this topic b/c i've seen the heart break of friends who are japanese who are struggling to just get a job out of school JUST LIKE ME.
and here i am in Japan and i already have job offers back in the states from my applications i sent Months after i graduated.
My friends here are 1 year older and still searching the industry. And best one can land so far is car dealership, as a salesman.
isnt that some shit.
Business administration and Management Major
and mine is busines Sciences.
and with barley even tryin i score a job in the states from over seas.
hes been here and the states at PSU for schooling. and still cant get a job in his own country.
Imagine the US
u know how much bull shit foreigners that come to the U.S have to go through to get a job?
please...
ENglish is by far the most difficult language in the world.
if you dont belive me ask around.
i spent 6 years in ESL learning it, and its not easy.