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12-07-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM View Post
Right. In order to save lives (part of a soldier's job) they didn't demonize the god the Japanse believed in, and worked with him to stabalize the country. As missions go, I would say that one went pretty well.
But the thing is they didn't wanted to do this until the very last days. They agreed only when Swiss embassy put them before accomplished fact of japanese government agreeing to capitulate if they leave the emperor intact. Truman didn't have a choice but to agree, the whole world wanted the war to end as fast as possible. Also US politics didn't even try to negociate, they just wanted to force Japan into capitulation by destroying it's cities, no mather the cost in civilian lives. Even Vatican tried to negociate with japanese government while US didn't.
Besides I really doubt that US would ever begin the land invasion. They would rather bomb and bomb and bomb again until Japan would surrender. That's the US tactic. Same happened in Vietnam when they would rather drop napalm on a village rather than risk "precious american lives" in normal assault. Ever heard of camps for vietnam peasants where they died of hunger? And US generals were saying that's it's for their own good so they wouldn't get recruited by Vietcong. Not to mention that McArthur wanted to use A-bombs in Korea when he realized they can't win the war. And they weren't used just becouse the eastern block had their own nuclear weapons and would retaliate.

You have to understand that japanese government knew they will lose and while many really wanted to fight to the end half of them didn't, but instead of using this and negociating US didn't care and continued to kill civilians. And it's not just my opinion, most of WW II specialists think that Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't necesary for Japan's capitulation. And I'm not talking about american specialists.

But seriously we already proved that we can't convince each other so let's just stop this ok. I only hope some people would read this topic from the beginning as it turned into quite interesting debate ^_^


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