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Originally Posted by Tenchu
I have never found an American who truly believes what you said. ALL Americans I have met...
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And have you met ALL Americans? Unlikely. If you want to talk about WW2 rather than Iraq, fine (everyone's pissy about Iraq--most people have gotten over WW2 by this point o_O ). We bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima. We killed a damn lot of people. What would have happened had we not? The Japanese government would have started ordering more conscriptions, America would have stormed the beaches of Japan, a long-fucking land war would have ensued, and millions of Japanese and Americans would have died--the over-all death toll for Japan would have easily been three times as high as it was with the two bombs. Not to mention that Russia was poised to strike Japan, also, which would have cost MORE Japanese lives and then some Russian lives! It's horrible, I don't condone the killing of innocent people any more than you do. But think about how many more innocent people (whether caught in the battle or conscripted by the government) would have been killed had we not. It was the lesser of two evils. No one I have ever talked to believes that it was "okay" for us to have used those weapons. The consensus is simply that it was better than the alternative.
You must be sticking your face in odd places to be in Australia and still recieving that.
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Originally Posted by Tenchu
See above. That is a uniquely American perspective. ...
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See above.
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I mean special as in the bad kind of special. ...
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I understand now... Okay. So then why were you trying to paint America and its people as some kind of scourge-of-the-Earth that makes other countries look like prancing ponies and rainbows?
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Originally Posted by Tenchu
I am talking about the way the US does these things, ... with the same kind of government and laws. Everything they are doing is being rubbed in. But they are sick. It is disgusting.
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Funny you should say that. America and Australia really aren't very different. Kind of in the way that Canada and America are different. Our countries are founded on very similar principles, have very similar laws and political beliefs (socialism and parliament aside). You must hate your own country, too, then. o_O
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I said all were about the same, I admit that, you are not listening. Do you not realize America is in EVERYONES face saying their way is the only way. That is what is different. It is bloody rude.
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o_O I've never gotten in anyone's face and said "The American way is the only way." I don't know anyone else who has. I don't know of any major political instance where it was said or implied that the American way was the only way. Actually, the only thing I can think of where America told someone else to shove it was when we ignored the UN a few years ago. And whatever individuals you've met are isolated instances--you can't judge the whole country based on a dozen or two yanks you met in Thailand or whatever.
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...repeat myself ...
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My turn. Don't talk about America until you've opened up a bit. Clearly, you have not psychologically matured enough yet to know that isolated cases are not indicative of a whole, the concept of the lesser of two evils, the world isn't black and white, and you don't know everything.
Just for the record, how old are you, anyway?
Oh, and you still haven't actually answered my question:
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Second, what's your criteria for 'simple-minded'? Do you, yourself, pass the criteria, or fit the criteria?
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