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Originally Posted by kireikoori
OMG those words made me so pissed I didn't even read the rest.
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Good for you.
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Originally Posted by SSJup81
Last I looked, and maybe this is because I live in America, both parents take turns raising their children. In the US, it's almost unheard of for both parents to not be working since most families can't afford to live off of one income, especially if you have children. Getting right down to it, I don't know anyone personally who had a mother who stayed home with the kids, 'cept for those who had government assistance and were "single moms".
For my family, when I was really young, my father was the one to take care of me. He had evening/night jobs whereas my mother always had a daytime job. She was the early bird and he was the night owl. The only time my mother stayed home with me as "stay at home mom", was only for a few months during her pregnancy leave, so of course I don't remember that.
IMO, some traditions are meant to be broken, and it's unfair that women are always going nuts over whether or not to pursue a career, or to become a full-time stay at home mom. Men are almost never faced with this choice. Both parents should take turns, imo, so that both can pursue careers that will benefit the family financially.
You know, this reminds me of the 1985 series Growing Pains. The wife (Maggie) gave up her Journalism career to become a stay at home mother. Once the youngest of her three kids got to a certain age (nine), she decided to go back out to jump start her career. Her husband (Jason), who was a Psychologist, sacrificed his job to do a private practice out of his home so that he could be with the children. They were compromising.
Home Improvement (1991/1992?) was the same way. Jill wanted to go back to school, get her degree and work as a Psychiatrist or counselor. She had three kids and was a "stay at home" mom, but in the later seasons, she did manage to get her degree and get a job as a counselor.
As I said above, I don't see anything wrong with women working, especially if they're married. The woman sacrificed to bear the children, the man could at least be supportive and helpful when it comes to raising them.
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I never said it was bad for women to get jobs. My mother was a single parent. I know how it goes.
My point is that people need balance. There is none though and that is a problem.
Kids needs both their parents not just one or the other. Its wrong to have a family and lose sight of this.
Women can go do whatever they want but within reason. The same goes for men.
If you think going out and getting laid and drunk every night is "living a dream" though, then in my opinion you are sorely mistaken. This is what eventually many "dreams" become and what I have a problem with.
If on the other hand you really want to make something of your life and want to reach new heights, go for it.
Both of the above require you not to have families though and that brings us back to why Japan has a population crisis.
Is ambition what everybody wants? I doubt it. Hence why I called it a fad. People following what the current "in thing" is, even though its not really anything they'd be happy with in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire
Hey man... you can blame capitalism/economic liberalism. Why should women put themselves out for society when self-interest is the name of the game? When society is not as supportive as it once was?  |
Deep down that is always the heart of the matter, the fact society is f****d up, in my opinion.
Even so, should we model ourselves around this kindof society and adapt to it just to find ourselves at a mental evolutionary dead end? Or should we get up and start taking action so we don't become helpless puppets who don't even know what wrong or right is anymore.
I've personally chosen the latter.
ps. I used to love home Improvement lol.