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I wasn't bickering, so I don't know what you're talking about there....

Originally Posted by Ramones1976

Who the fuck are you calling moron, ************ (angrily swears)
Second, politically I'm very liberal, so Fox new is bloody bollocks

The "you" in that statement was meant as an impersonal you. I guess I should have said "one" instead of you, sorry :P . But seriously: say it out loud and tell me that it sounds cool or smart.

"Politically very liberal".... Hmm, so you want National Healthcare, which will ultimately lead to a degradation of the quality of healthcare, want to increase benefits for people on Welfare even though they're one of the biggest drains on the national budget, downsize our military so that the rest of the world can shit all over us, centralize control of many utilities (water, electric) in spite of the common result of inefficiency and break-down, tax gasoline even more in an effort to stem global warming................

Okay then

Originally Posted by Ramones1976

I watched a few minutes of Fox and I swear I wanted to bitch slap the news reporters, I couldn't stand listening to them, the things they said pissed me off
Personally I like BBC news

I don't watch BBC. Actually, I don't watch any news. My dad watches Fox, though, so when I'm down there I get to listen to O'Rielly and company. Anywayz... I'm just wondering how you can watch for a few minutes and make such a firm judgement. Kinda like making assumptions about a person by the way they said "Hello" to you, I think.

Originally Posted by Ramones1976

No I don't think so

Well, I do, so there?

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The U.S. and the UK led the aerial bombing campaign, with ground forces supplied primarily by the Afghan Northern Alliance. In 2002, American, British and Canadian infantry were committed, along with special forces from several allied nations. Later, NATO troops were added. The U.S. military calls the conflict Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF).

Hmm... Sounds to me like the UN at least gave it's approval, even if it was not directly involved. War in Afghanistan (2001–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Ramones1976

Bollocks, the US was far from neutral during the 19 century...

That was "Neutral to all European conflicts". The Monroe Doctrine, to be specific, essentially stated that the Europeans should stay the fuck out of the Americas, and the the US would stay the fuck out of Europe. "The Americas" includes Central and South America.

If I left that ambiguous before, I apologize.

Originally Posted by Ramones1976

Yes it was american arrogance...
Well look how well the us did of 'kicking ass"...
More like they got their asses kicked...by peasants with without as much technology

Again, the whole deal was the president thinking that he needed to restore our reputation for being able to contain communism. At the time, all the Western powers were after that goal. We didn't go into Vietnam just for the hell of it, just to show that we can kick around anyone we want. In the president's thinking, a victory in Vietnam would have shown that we were capable of fighting communism.

hmm....

Again, I wasn't bickering. I might be a little sarcastic, sure.... (that's just how I am :P ) But whatever. If you think you can't hold a decent debate without it degrading into bitching, then don't reply. But next time you make assertions like you did when we first started this discussion, do back them up a little more .