[Alastor]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

Is this speaking from experience here? Or is this the philosophy your Karate teacher told you as an excuse for being lazy? Actually, my old Kung Fu teacher DID tell me this. He said there was little point in full time training because you can only obsorb so much information at once! What an idiot, I dont believe people can actually believe that a guy who practices 3 times a week stands a chance against a full time practitioner... Now, there is such thing as effective training, and one day of useless training is not as good as one hour of good training, however, one day of good training is better than one hour of good training. Your body can recover, get stronger, and there are many types of good exersizes that can be done to consume your day without wrecking your body. The key you are looking for is effective training + time. Time matters, hence the very meaning of Kung Fu.

Your know-it-all attitude failed now, I'm afraid. I have no karate teacher. Never had, either. I think Karate, as a fighting art, is stupid. It is true you can only absorb so much information at once, although this has nothing to do with honing your skills. You already know them making them better isn't absorbing more information, it's letting the knowledge grow within you. And yes, if you look at your body and muscles, you can't practise non-stop. You need your eight hours of sleep, you need t let your body rest during and after eating, you need to let those muscles rebuild, etc. This is why you sleep Tenchu, and have time to hang around JapanForum, play videogames, drink beer and eat pizza. I never said time doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter as much a being effective. Once you're effectiv, time is only how much willpower you have to keep on going, and how long before you feel you've had enough training. And these are all factor determined by your focus and determination, not time.

Originally Posted by Tenchu

Firstly, as Musashi said, a Warrior must learn to turn his attitude in an instant so he is constantly ready. I need about 1 second for mental prep, and I am about as angry as a burning bull. Warm ups are okay, but only old men truly need them. Most skills can be done well without warm ups, this is not a big thing. Catching a man off gaurd is good. I will give you that. God forbid an assassin determines the best time to hit me is at 2100 at night, when I am bloated with pizza and drunk from beer! Yes, surprise is good. My teacher, Musashi, however, was never off gaurd. He would even not bathe for fear of been caught naked and exposed by an enemy. I think though he did bathe sometime, in secluded rivers and streams in the wilderness, I doubt he NEVER did, but, still, you see how men can train to be constantly ready. Musashi, also, was a duel fighter. Like a tournament, where you are given time to warm up and psyche up, but there are no rules in the actual fight, he killed ALL his opponents.

I see in competitions all the time where these guys sit around for X amount of time warming up in the locker rooms, and then they get to stand in front of their opponent and mentally preare to fight THAT individual before the fight begins. Very different from eating a sundae wearing jeans and a shirt, and then suddeny realizing you have to fight this guy who wants to stab you to death. Usually, half the fight is won before the fight.

Originally Posted by Tenchu

Well, I was not inuslting you. I dunno, I just assume most you guys do just small 3 nights a week training or something, coz you all students or got jobs.

You need to stop assuming so much, then.

Originally Posted by Tenchu

This is a common thought, so I am going to give you the exception that you have pretty much just quoted what you have heard, and not thought it through in great detail. Do you really believe this? Really?

Yes, being in a ring with rules does bloody restrict you, period. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that a real fight is different from a competitive sports fight.

Originally Posted by Tenchu

I train Muay Thai mostly, but just because I am bound by rules do you think on the street I dont know how to kick the balls, throat, or gouge the eyes? I think every serious fighter might train with rules, but only a fool is eternally bound by them.

I think a Ninjutsu or Judo practitioner know plenty more grappling, throwing and locking techniques/principles than you do. Not counting the techniques that require your opponent wearing a Gi. So, just a question. When you practice, how often do you practice against a live target? After all, pads and wooden dolls don't fight back.

Originally Posted by Tenchu

So, I would love to train only for real fighting, and then duel like Musashi did. But where the fuck will I get money? Tournament fighting is a legitamite profession, one that will allow me to continue to train martial skills full time, as was the Army. And in the case of Muay Thai, the only reason there are rules is because all the fighters kept dieing or being permanently injured, so rules came into play to help allow the sport to flourish, and people not to die so much. The old way was to get into a ring and just fight to the death, no breaks, no ref, last man standing.

Funny, what happens when you're the one who ends up dead? The very concept of me willingly having a job where there is a 50-50 chance of me dying is just aburd. I'm expecting to live another 60 years, I wouldn't want to miss out 50 of those.

Originally Posted by Tenchu

The fact remains, the best fighter will be the one who trains the most. The one who trains the most is the one who has the time and money to do it, the one who has the time and money to do it is the one who makes money from doing it. And every fuckin Muay Thai fighter or BJJ dude or MMA fighter or whatever, they know how to fight dirty, they are not stupid.

So, whoever told you what you said is plain dumb, k.

No. Whoever has the greatest skills is the best fighter. If AAA trains 10 hours a week and BBB trains 20 hours a week, but AAA's training is more efective and AAA's 10 hours serves AAA better than BBB's 20 hours serves BBB. Thus, AAA will beat BBB.


Tenchu, from what I've gathered, you're a serious Muay Thai practitioner. You want to fight, and you also think that tournament fighting is a good way to earn money, to support you so you can keep on fighting. The thing is, why are you practising Muay Thai? Why don't you just practice fighting, period? I know Muay Thai is very close to that, but why restrict yourself? Actively practicing everything makes everything easier. Sure you can gouge eyes, but can you swiftly and with accuracy do it? What about pressure points, grappling, ground fighting, etc.?