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06-07-2008, 10:06 AM

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Well with that logic there are probably people that voted for Obama because they think he is from Mars.

My point is that Americans didn't vote for Obama to "appease" foreign countries. There are much more signifigant issues going on at home. Worrying about what other countries think of us is a non-priority to US voters right now.
I'm saying that your generic statement about people voting for Obama to appease other countries is wrong. I also explained that this "appeasement" could be indirect, especially when they are faced with their countries errors. It doesn't have to mean that voters are thinking about other countries and their problems but that they are just thinking about their place in the world.
When Bush was voted into his second term, there was a website showing people holding up boards and signs saying "sorry". Are you saying those people weren't thinking about their place in the rest of the world when they voted or that it didn't at least influence them a fair degree?
Sure it's a different president now but it's still Bush being replaced and I think those same thoughts will still be in some voters minds.

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I don't know how you can say Obama relies on his color. Black people do not use their color to try to win elections in America. If anything they have to win despite their color. I found this quote from a newspaper that says what I meant more eloquently:

While you shouldn't vote for someone based on color or gender, you can celebrate that gender and color finally don't matter enough to keep qualified people away from the presidency.
*scratches head*
I'm sure I mentioned that he was showing some backbone rather than relying on his colour. I was answering you when you said: "But just know that to even have a black man be nominated as the Democratic nominee is a huge deal in America, and it does show progress and shows the world that America may not be quite as racist as the world often thinks."


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