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06-07-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y View Post
I'm saying that your generic statement about people voting for Obama to appease other countries is wrong. I also explained that this "appeasement" could be indirect, especially when they are faced with their countries errors. It doesn't have to mean that voters are thinking about other countries and their problems but that they are just thinking about their place in the world.
When Bush was voted into his second term, there was a website showing people holding up boards and signs saying "sorry". Are you saying those people weren't thinking about their place in the rest of the world when they voted or that it didn't at least influence them a fair degree?
Sure it's a different president now but it's still Bush being replaced and I think those same thoughts will still be in some voters minds.

It's a completely different country now. I don't know if there is too much more to be said. Maybe unconsciously people are voting for Obama to look good for the rest of the world. Consciously I think there are greater reasons.


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*scratches head*
I'm sure I mentioned that he was showing some backbone rather than relying on his colour. I was answering you when you said: "But just know that to even have a black man be nominated as the Democratic nominee is a huge deal in America, and it does show progress and shows the world that America may not be quite as racist as the world often thinks."
Unless I misread you, you said Obama needed to show some backbone, rather than rely on his race, which is what he has done until now.
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