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Originally Posted by Paul11

Actually, I did mention the suspicous circumstances: SEE THE REZCO TRIAL.

So you are denouncing this presidential candidate because he bought a house from Tony Rezco?

Did Barrack Obama admit working with him to buy a house was a mistake?

YES.

Has Barrack Obama been cleared of any other connections with Tony Rezco?

YES.

For Christ's sake, I know people in my past I have dealt with that have committed some ugly crimes. I am glad that in my work people don't judge me by the actions of my real-estate agent.

Originally Posted by Paul11

His denunciations of the church are spurious and disingenuous. He can't have a personal friend and mentor for 20 years, sit in that person's church for 20 years, and say, "I never heard any of that."

In a debate Hillary Clinton asked him to denounce the words of Reverand Wright. With no doubt, gap, suspiscion or gray area, he did just that.

He is completely separated from that church and that pastor. He will never darken that door again. You will never see a picture of Obama and Reverend Wright again. Ever. What more do you need?

Disingenious? Do you know what "denounce" means?

Originally Posted by Paul11

Socialism is not equal to communism. No one said it was. that doesn't make it ok. Not all Americans confuse socialism with communism. Americas police and fire are not a socialist system.

Then what are they?

We have 911 in America.

Free: Police.

Free: Fire

EXPENSIVE: Ambulances and Medical.

In other countries we can get the ambulances and medical care at the same price as the police and fire departments.

So why not in America?

Originally Posted by Paul11

You won't delve into his support of people who want to see us ruined, our enemies. Why not?

I am facinated. Tell me who Barrack Obama supports that is anti-America. Who is striving for him to be president that wants to see the breakdown of America? If I am ignoring them it is because I don't know who they are.

Who I do know are the CEOs at all the gas companies that are getting MILLIONS in bonuses because a company like EXXON made 36 BILLION DOLLARS in PROFIT in the first THREE MONTHS of 2008.

What also happened during that time?

The price of gasoline went up over 250%.

Originally Posted by Paul11

Yes other nations have socialized health care. And it usually stinks. Limited facilities in which people have to wait forever for treatment. the costs are related to inability for health insurers to compete and lawsuits. socialized medicine is not the answer. You want the government, which botches evertything, to control your health care?

Paul, wait until you need treatment in America. I am guessing you have never actually had to go through a medical situation.

I have been insured in Japan and insured in America. In Japan it was basically free for me. In America I now pay 270 dollars a month. Pound for pound, I'd take the japanese system any day.

With the same problems I would pay 5 dollars a month in Japan for medicine I pay well over 5 dollars a day for here in America.

Originally Posted by Paul11

You obviously know nothing about the housing crisis, which is not a crisis. We never dipped into recession. The fear mongers in the liberal media got your goat and you believed it. Most houses lost were not homes. they were houses bought as investments by people who over-reached. they are also the result of people using exotic loan plans to buy houses they could not afford. they signed paper-work that said the mortgage will rise in two to three years. They failed to refinance before the mortgage changes. It was greed, pure and simple.

You tell the over one million Americans that have lost thier homes due to the poor promotion of ARMs that turned south and 800 dollar mortgages suddenly turned into 1600 dollar mortgages that their plight isn't real. These are high-end investors going into ARMs. These are low-income folks trying to get ahead, and got duped by the ARM system.

Originally Posted by Paul11

You obviously don't own a house in california.

You obviously get your news from terrible sources.

No, I don't live in California. How that matters, I do not know.

And if life and personal experience is a bad news source, then I hope you can point me out to a better one.

Originally Posted by Paul11

Yet again you mention Obama's Change. never said what the change is going to be. He is an ultra left socialist, which is not what the U.S. is about.

Get our boys and girls out of Iraq and Afghanistan: CHANGE

Spend money on rebuilding AMERICA instead of wasting money in Iraq: CHANGE

Become less dependant on foreign oil, instead of begging OPEC leaders to make more : CHANGE

If the US was flying high socially, economically, internationally, then I would say "Hey, Paul, you are right." The fact that we are in the lowest point in a long time in all those areas...the areas that affect Americans everyday lives...then I feel like a radical change is needed.

Originally Posted by Paul11

His leftie supporters like you usually attempt to pretend you are on moral high ground and make dispariging little comments at me in your defense of Obama. Your eyes are closed very tight indeed.

Never have I pretended to be on a moral high ground. To be honest, I am on a financial low ground, very much thanks to our president right now.

As John McCain admits, economics is not his strong-point. I need a President who can represent ME. A middle-class American. I don't need a president that is more worried about building schools 15000 miles away in Iraq when my kid's school just lost its music program and fired its librarian.