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Originally Posted by Paul11

I completely agree with ronin4hire and most of what mmm said.

But Obmas friend william ayers was not a war protester. He was part of a terroris group that bombed federal buildings and police depts. He was trying to kill cops and is unrepentant about it today. Obamas wife has never been proud of her country. His very close friend and pastor hates america. Everyone around obama showes hatred and spite for america. This doen'st concern you? You can't deny that it seems everyone around him (even his mom) hates the states and he probably does, too. If you can ignore this stuff, WOW!

The Weathermen never tried to kill anyone. They did bomb buildings, but always issued warnings before hand.

His relationship to Obama was they both served on a Chicago school board at the same time. I beleive Ayers gave money to Obama's campaign many years ago. If he is such an evil man, why is a part of Illinois government and is a universtity professor. Let's not blow this into something it isn't?

Obama is no longer tied to Rev. Wright. He is no longer his friend or his pastor.

Obama's wife misspoke and immediately rephrased her statement. What she had meant to say is that she had never been more proud of America than she was now, seeing her husband achieve what he was achieving.

You really beleive Obama hates America? C'mon. You are falling for extreme right-wing scare tactics. THAT'S what concerns me. When the conservatives don't have any dirt, they make things up. Now you are calling his mother anti-America? The poor woman has been dead for 13 years.

Originally Posted by Paul11

He said he will raise taxes hugely.

Where did you find that quote?

Originally Posted by Paul11

He wants to abandon Iraq, which will probably leave millions dead ans an even more unstable region, just like we did in nam.

I'll let you be the one to compare Vietnam and Iraq, but it sounds like we agree on that one.

Obama hasn't said "abandon" Iraq. He says he will start pulling troops out soon after he takes office. Iraq is not a day-care center. It is a soveign nation that has been around (as Iraq and Persia) a hell of a lot longer than we have.

Originally Posted by Paul11

an Obama has never done anything, has no experience and didn't vote often as a senator in D.C.

Want to compare voting records?

From AP:McCain has missed 255 of 450 votes cast in the Senate since January including every vote this year. That's according to the Democratic National Committee, which keeps a tally.

Obama has missed about 40 percent, or 170 votes, and Clinton has missed 24 percent, or 108 votes, according to the DNC tally.

Originally Posted by Paul11

None of this is debatable. It adds up to contempt for the U.S. middle class and the country in general. You think that's ok.

Obviously everything is debatable. On the surface you paint a scary picture. But I didn't have to dig very deep to show that the Republican Fear Factor Sheet on Obama is full of holes.

Originally Posted by Paul11

I'm not a big fan of McCain or Bush. But none of these facts about Obama are even debatable. They're common knowledge as part of the debate here in the states. That is not an acceptable candidate

Again, its the lesser of two eveils. One who has served our country and one who showes contempt.

What isn't debateable is calling Obama anti-American means you guys are forced to scrape pretty low to try and muck up this man's reputation. If "Anti-American" is the best you can do, then I know my choice in Obama is even more solid than I thought.