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07-17-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu View Post
Amnell, seriously, shut up. A marine is only good with a rifle in his hands, and even then, the ranges the Americans practice to shoot at are often 60% shorter than other countries, and they still miss the target.

If you want to be good at something you have to practice doing just that. Soldiers are good at shooting. Fighters are good at hand to hand combat.

Being the best marksman in the world does not mean you could fuck over a well trained boxer, even if you are experienced at keeping your cool under pressure - which most boxers are given it is a professional sport.

ROFL @ U
You know what? FUCK you! You obviously don't know jack shit about anything other than your own fucked up little world where everyone other than you and five year old girls are objects to be scorned and hated.

Since you clearly don't know, let me set you straight: The US Marine Corp--not the US Army--trains every soldier to be able to hit a target with a non scoped M16A2 at ranges that the US Army reserves for their 'special' forces that carry scoped M4's and M82's. In order to graduate BCT from the Marines, you have to be able to HIT your targets at least 85% of the time (probably more) at ranges greater than 800 yards. In the Army, the standards are not nearly so tight, so I forgive you if you're simply confused about which branch is which. Marines don't fuck around, though. There's a damn good reason why whenever the UN wants to throw some weight around they send the USMC.

Foot soldiers in general train to fight in whatever circumstances they find themselves: from 200 yards behind a wall with a rifle, or three feet away with a rifle that's out of ammo and a knife. Marines definitely train for these situations. Hell, even you had to have had SOME training for that kind of shit when you were in the Australian Army!

So, when it comes to pitting a boxer against someone who trained in the system the Marines teach, both fighters of approximately equal skill, I would place my money on the Marine because his training is not limited to using his hands and fighting under heavily controlled conditions. You said it yourself: it's the way the fighter trains that makes a difference.

And I disagree that sparring full contact all the time is the only way to go. Students of lower skill level would get knocked out before they realized they'd made a mistake and might not be able to reflect on what went wrong later. After I got knocked out a couple weeks ago, I'm still not sure what kind of strike my partner used and what I should have done differently. I think it was a kick only because it hurt, but it could well have been a hook punch for all I know.

Save full contact sparring for those who have lots of training already and are able to pick out their mistakes almost as they make them. Otherwise you're just n00b bashing! (Which, granted, can be fun)


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Originally Posted by noodle
But, that's always f-ed up individuals that kill in secluded areas up high in the mountains. Thats neither the army nor the governments agenda! I hope those people rott in hell, but an army or government shouldn't be judged by psycho individuals.
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