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Originally Posted by Tenchu
I have only ever met marines. ... I am not talking about marines, anyway.
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.... Huh? Wait, so all this time we've been talking about the USMC, you weren't talking about the USMC????
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Originally Posted by Tenchu
Yes, the reason is; USMC has the biggest arsenal of fire power of any Infantry unit in the world. They excel in urban operations so well because when ever they get into trouble they withdraw and let gunships or atilery 'remove' the 'objective'. They are much less effective in more strategical open enviroment operations...
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Hrm, that contradicts what every Marine I've ever talked to has told me--and I've known a good share. The general consensus has been that the Corps is usually the most reluctant to pull out. As one recruiter told me a long time ago, "The Army will go into one engagement with three ways out; the Corps will go into three engagements with one way out." A friend and family member of mine who is a Colonel in the Marine Corps as much as told me that Marines don't withdraw until they absolutely have to. Real evidence of this is Hanoi, Vietnam, when Marines (iirc) were the last American troops to leave.
Of course, anyone who has gunship support and are able to use it is going to--that saves the lives your people while depleting the enemy. However, using indirect fire support on a city is a general policy; exceptions being cases where the whole idea is to level the city as was arguably the case in Fallujah.
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Originally Posted by Tenchu
But I WAS a soldier. And all the other guys were idiots. They have an advantage over normal civis, but not over proper fighters.
Did you ever ask your granpa how many hours each recruit spent learning hand to hand combat during the course? It was prob about 10 or 15 hours over a 6 week course. Compare that to a fighter who trains that + in one week.
Seriously, Amnell, smash your head on the key board for me. Think about it. You learn aggression and speed in kick boxing, too, not just in the Army. I would place my money on the guy who has spent the most hours training. That is like, 40 or 50 hours learning KM or Marine Fu versus thousands of hours of a boxer.
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I think you missed my point.
I never asked him, personally. And that could well be the case. It doesn't change that fact that my mother was beating up on guys twice her size when she was a teenager because of what and how my grand-dad taught her and her siblings. From what she's told me, they never did any kind of regular lessons for long periods of time--he would just pull them aside, show them something, and tell them to go practice it on their time.
I never said anything about speed or agression. I was talking about training for variables. A boxer trains under the assumption that there will be no variables in a fight: his opponent won't suddenly pull a knife, he won't step on a rock and fall over, he won't have a second opponent appear out of nowhere, etc. A soldier, regardless of nation or branch, does train for that. Hell, *I* train for that at my school! Not that I would say I could beat up a professional boxer at this point, but I definitely have more faith in my training than in his!