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Originally Posted by kireikoori
Noodle, did you use the internet much while in China?
What can you tell me about internet censorship in China?
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Yes, I did use the internet in both Internet Cafes and Friends homes. There was no censorship that I could see. But then again, I was looking at foreign sites (I cannot read or speak any Chinese Dialect).
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Originally Posted by Henbaka
If you read my post again you can see that I never said the word "expert". Try again. However, the fact that you are willing to pass judgment and tell people "how it really is" after being in China for less than a month doesn't give you much credibility, infact it gives you none.
I also did not criticize the chinese people as a whole. That's the whole point (well part of it atleast), it's the people who get oppressed/jailed for nothing/executed/censored who we sympathize with! If you can't see that there is something wrong with their government, then I guess you're beyond help.
Unfortenately, the Olympics will provide the world with more people like you, who will go there and "get impressed by how beautiful everything is, and oh so kind they are! The media must have lied to us about the atrocities."
I am not saying you can't argue for China or whatever (if you do, you will meet resistance). But don't proclaim that you know how the situation in China infact is, because you were there with friends a few weeks.
Lastly, the way you're hiding behind personal attacks and stupid insults just prove to us what kind of person you are. It doesn't win you points.
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Dude, have you even read anything I've written in this thread? I haven't claimed that China was some kind of heavan. The closest I came to that was saying that it was a beautiful country and people. I replied to Tenchu when he said noone had been to china, and I added that this is another reason WHY I defended china. Whether I was there for a couple of weeks or a couple of years is irrelavent, because the fact is, I've been there for longer than MOST OF YOU. And for you guys to debate as if YOU know what it's like is more ridiculous than me arguing as IF i know what it's like. Hint, I've been there for a couple of weeks more than you, so that's a lot more information than you can get from bias news. Oh and, don't bother starting this whole I'm saying the west lies. Go read what was written in previous pages.
I'm glad there will be more people like me. People need to have an open mind instead of watching the news and assuming that the whole country is f-ed up (this is not personally you, but a lot of people think China is some f-ed up country. For proof of this, just watch the protests against the olympics. You will see foreign people that have never been to china trying to convince chinese people that their government is f-ed up and is trying to destroy them...). I will never proclaim that China is perfect. Far from it, but I will always fight against people that have this ridiculous negative image of it simply from some crappy documentary or news report they've seen. But then again, I'm not surprised... Jealousy seems to run in the blood of the westerners...
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Another thing... Do you really thing the Chinese people are trained dogs or something? Do you really believe that if people spoke their mind, they'd be jailed? hahahahahaaaa. That's as far from the truth as it can be. People speak out against their government like any other country. I like how you've applied an isolated incident to a whole population. It's funny, I could say the same thing about Europe as well. Need I remind you that an english person got jailed for three years for doubting how many Jew's were killed in WW2? Seriously, just GO to china, or meet chinese people. They speak out as much as anyone else.