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Originally Posted by Wasabista
Well, basically men always used to be the people who DO things. Warriors? Men. Doctors? Men. Astronauts, scientists, inventors? The vast majority were men. Women had the option of letting the men do the heavy lifting, while sharing in the spoils. Wisely, they took it.
If there is any record of Caesar conquering Gaul and Mrs. Caesar saying oh no honey, please leave those nice Gauls alone, I've never seen it.
Basically you're applying 2008 assumptions to huge swathes of human history and it doesn't make sense.
Really? A little history for you my friend.
Gloria Steinem: "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."
Marilyn French: "All men are rapists, and that's all they are."
Andrea Dworkin: "Sex and murder are fused in the male consciousness, so that one without the imminent possibility of the other is unthinkable and impossible."
Roseanne Barr, on reading that a Utah housewife stabbed her husband 37 times: "I admire her restraint."
Andrea Dworkin again: "I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."
Entirely representative quotes, not taken out of context, from some of the leading feminist thinkers of modern times (except Roseanne Barr who's just an obnoxious cow.)
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Actually, you have taken some quotes out of context.
Let me break this down.
Gloria Steinem: "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."
I agree. No women actually needs a man at all. In modern society, women can make their own money. They don't need to have a partner as they are perfectly able to sustain themselves on their own. They do not need a man to support them.
Marilyn French: "All men are rapists, and that's all they are."
The full quote is actually
'Whatever they may be in public life, whatever their relationships with men, in their relationships with women, all men are rapists, and that's all they are. They rape us with their eyes, their laws, and their codes.' She did not mean physically raping someone. In any case, I don't agree with this statement, and although she was a 'feminist' she was a radical one, she was not a speaker of the organisation, she just wrote novels.
Andrea Dworkin: 'Sex and murder are fused in the male consciousness, so that one without the imminent possibility of the other is unthinkable and impossible.'
She's a
radical feminist. They are minority of feminists that are extremist, I have already said I do not agree with what they believe. I am defending feminists here,
not radical feminists.
Roseanne Barr, on reading that a Utah housewife stabbed her husband 37 times: "I admire her restraint."
That's an awful thing to say. If she did in fact say that then it's inexcusable, but does not represent the feminist group. You could also call her a radical feminist because of her extreme views.