[Wasabista]

First born sons, eh? No daughters? Hmm, funny I thought women were oppressed in those days. Go figure.

Ronin, I'll go tell my friends tonight when I see them on the town that somebody called me "right-wing." We'll all have a good chuckle on that. (Then again Noam Chomsky has been called an anti-Semite, with no apparent irony...funny old world)

OK, here's an example for you. We’re going to talk about domestic violence. You raised several other interesting points, but I’m going to concentrate on this one.

Point One: The general popular view is that domestic violence is almost exclusively a male crime.

You’ve probably heard that one of the great challenges the women’s movement is struggling with is domestic, or family, violence. Have you heard that? Is it your impression that this consists of men beating up women, and fathers abusing their children? You probably have.

What percent of men beat their wives and girlfriends? 20 percent? 30 percent?

What percent of women beat their husbands and boyfriends? Virtually none, or only in self-defense?

If that sounds like your view, you’re not alone. There are NGOs all over North America purporting to be dedicated to “ending violence against women.” Note, not “ending violence,” or “ending violence between spouses.” The domestic batterer is typically characterized as MALE. The victim, FEMALE.

Examples?
• An ad by the Ad Council and Family Violence Prevention Fund, Time magazine, 1996: “42% of all murdered women are killed by the same man (their husband).”
• An ad from the Boulder (CO) Men’s Center: “A slap in the face is no solution. AMEND = Abusive Men Exploring New Directions” Men, not people.
• Rocky Mountain News, Feb 5, 1990: “50% of women feel the cold hand of a batterer.”
• Boston Globe, Jan 29, 1993: “Women’s shelters flooded with more calls the Monday after the Superbowl than any other time of year.” The Globe later acknowledged the claim was false.
• US Women’s Bureau: Women are 6 times more likely than men to be victims of domestic violence.
• At a recent address (like, a few weeks ago) to the United Nations, Suze Orman, a financial planner who does a show on CNBC, stated that greater financial independence was a key element in the fight against violence against women. She said nothing about violence against men.

So this is a widely held opinion. You’ve probably seen the ads on TV yourself, or in newspapers, or on public buses. I have.

Point Two: This view is false. Women and men are equally likely to be victims of abuse by their spouses.

The academic research on the subject is unanimous: Sadly, there are men who batter women, and women who batter men.

The landmark study on this phenomenon was Steinmetz, Straus and Gelles, way back in 1975. This study found that women and men batter each other equally. The study caused a storm in sociology circles, and more studies were inaugurated. But ALL of these studies ended up finding the same thing. The methods varied, the locations, time scales, etc varied, but the results all supported Steinmetz, Straus and Gelles—even though most of the researchers were feminists. (That reflects well on them—despite their bias, they brought out the truth.)

Take a moment to think about that. The academic research is UNANIMOUS. Here is a partial list, you can look them up online with ease. I’m saving my typing fingers by giving you only the authors, journal names and dates.

J Archer and N Ray, Aggressive Behavior, 1989
I Arias and P Johnson, Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Sept 1989
I Arias, M Samos, K O’Leary, Journal of Interpersonal Violence, March 1987
ML Bernard and JL Bernard, Family Relations, 1983
RE Billingham and AR sack, Journal of Adolescent Research, 1986
R Bland and Helene Orn, Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, March 1986
JR Bohannon, DA Dosser Jr, SE Lindley, Violence and Victims, 1995
J Bookwala, IH Frieze, C Smith, K Ryan, Violence and Victims, 1992
MB Brinkerhoff and E Lupri, Canadian Journal of Sociology, 1988
L Brush, National Survey of Families and Households; Gender and Society, March 1990

That’s ten. There are at least 40 others.

You wanted facts – be careful what you wish for!

Point Three: The reason why people don’t know the facts is that feminists prevent them from hearing about it.

Dissident feminists such as Camille Paglia and Christina Hoff Summers speak of being prevented from appearing on TV and other media due to various threats, usually of the “you’ll never do lunch in this town” variety but even a great many death threats. (Paglia’s voice mail has a taped message stating that she does not open packages sent to her so don’t bother.) When Summers wrote Who Stole Feminism, many feminists called CBS to pressure them not to air an interview they had taped with her. Gloria Steinem called personally to demand the show be shelved. And on, and on, and on.

There’s actually MUCH more to this censorship process—men’s macho attitudes being a big one! But clearly, the women’s movement is lying, and is very serious about it.

Conclusion

I began my replies to MissMisa on this thread by stating that modern mainstream feminism no longer seeks anything recognizable as equality as its goal, if indeed it ever did. I showed you numerous quotes from the world’s best known feminists to back it up.

In this post, I’ve focused on one important area: Domestic violence. I’ve given numerous examples demonstrating that the women’s movement promotes the view that this crime is a MALE crime. I’ve offered exhaustive documentation that this isn’t so. And I’ve explained why the truth has been so effectively covered up.

Next time, if anybody is still awake, I’ll tell you one example of how this campaign of lies hurts men, and many women too, and their children: the Duluth procedures.