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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y
I'm amazed that you're ignorant enough to not know when I am using a simplified example and have an issue with me on a totally irrelevant point.
Lol you tell me not to jump to conclusions but you do the same?
What Muslim societies have you seen this done in exactly?
Oh i'm sure there will be instances out there but it is not an epidemic like you make it sound.
Just the same as a father killing his family and shooting himself dead in any Western country.
Also, didn't I say that Feminism was "partially" responsible? There are other reasons society is the way it is and I said Feminism is definitely responsible for it alongside those reasons.
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Yeah... simplified examples aren't examples when all they do is showcase your ignorance.
And I completely agree and am not against Islam, well not culturally anyway... I'm aware that honour killings are only allowed in backward Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia etc. And even then they are not as common as some would make them out to be.
Now that we have that understanding (that being that I don't despise Islam on a cultural level), let me try and spell it out for you.
Feminism seems (or is it just you guys, I've lived in England and America and never encountered any widespread hostility towards the feminist movement, or perhaps I just chose my company well.)
to have a bad reputation in your societies amongst the ignorant who know nothing about it (such as yourself)
based on the actions or opinions of those who do so in the name of feminism whom you don't agree with (to put it politely, since we aren't really discussing a specific topic I'm not willing to brand ALL those that act against mainstream norms extremists considering that at one stage in history, the mere notion that a woman could be considered equal to a man would be deemed extremist).
Now notice how in the above paragraph you can replace the word feminism with the word islam and it would be an accurate statement on which we could
BOTH agree.
I know you're a Muslim and was simply trying to relate to you as I assume that you may understand where I was coming from.