[theAlphaDuck]

indeed...

but would you go as far as calling the geshia an artist?

because geshia patrons like to call themselves...patrons of the arts...

is that really the case?

if you PAY for a geshia....are you supporting the J-art scene....or getting a couple of pretty dolled up girls to massage your ego?

surly art is all about new ideas?
in geshia...there are no knew ideas...just the old ones...

also would by your definition a Hostess not be just as much art as a geshia??
yet hosstess bar customers don't consider themselves patrons of the arts...