[TheCrimson]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

I dunno about empowering but I listened to music that 'recognised the pain'.

In that respect, I think Smashing Pumpkins - Adore, is one of the most depressing albums ever. Its quite easy to relate to it on a lot of levels if you were ever in the same boat as Billy Corgan was.

Other than that, 'Gothic Metal' (or whatever u wanna call it) like Lacuna Coil, are also pretty good to me in the types of music to listen to. The lyrics might not be exactly what you always want but the music is nice and dark.

yeah, Within Temptation is good Gothic Metal =)

I agree with the Smashing Pumpkins point =D

but yeah, i know what you mean.

music is good for a lot of things, isnt it? =P

Originally Posted by NanteNa

Arikado@ I really don't agree with that. Just because people out there feel somewhat worse than us it doesn't mean we're not allowed to feel sad because our problems seem to be NOTHING compared to what the third world is going through. Humans THINK a lot about everything. That can cause to depression and alike - whether your country is at war or not.

Pexster & Miyavifan@ Nobody is judging Kyo. If you hadn't noticed this is a SERIOUS discussion on self inflicted pain. One's fandom is not perfect. Neither is yours. It's okay that you stand up for him and whatever, but you guys make it sound like you're all married to the guy and have to stand before him defending his every move. Harming himself is exactly and obviously what he does - it's wrong to some extend, but just like you and me he's an individual and he's his own boss as long as he stays within the words of law. As so many others mentioned already, Rei didn't try to attack Kyo. She used him as an example since most of us here on JF have already seen him and can therefore relate to what she means. It's not personal.
And to you Miyavifan, if you cannot stay impartial just because it's about Kyo, you should be old enough to stay out of the convo.

EDIT; As an add-up to the tattoo/piercing thing. People rarely do it for the pain - they do it for the result of the pain. Cutters don't cut for the scar, aye. They cut for the blood.

P.E.R.F.E.C.T

perfect Nan.

and Pexster, your posts are painful to read. seriously. its like reading something a retard typed.

i'm just wanna clear all this for myself, i am not here to bag shit on Kyo, i just thought this issue could be something people might find interesting, and from what i know, there's a lot of teens in this forum, who may be doing shit like this or did it or whatever, or there maybe some adults who've done things like this and wanna give their opinion on it.

blah.

anyway. i dont think piercings and tattoos are included, but then again, there are people who go and get tatts and piercings because of the pain O_o