[Tyrien]

Originally Posted by Crani

The 80GB and the new 60GB also don't have backards compability.
I play a PS2 game (NBA 06) on the older 60 GB and boy what a piece of garbage the PS2 emulation is, the image was really awfull, so I think they did a smart move removing that chip, because it is not worth it.
And a friend of mine broke his PS3 and it's going to take 2 months for them to give him a new one. And all the new Xbox's come with HDMI, so you can play and view movies in full HD, it even upscales DVD to full HD with the DVD addon.

I'm sorry what? New 60gb? There hasn't been any 60gb in production since the 40/80 GB transition. There's a 160GB bundle that was released though, if that's what you meant.

If you played that on the euro 60gb then yes, it's emulation. The US/JPN 60/20gb did hardware emulation with the PS2 graphics and processing chip. There was hardly any games that didn't work with it.

How can you play movies in full HD with the xbox's HDMI? You can have ripped HD movies but those typically take a hit in quality as well. Also any actual HD movie is typically in MKV format, which the 360 cannot recognize and won't for a while until MKV supports the newest divx. The downloaded HD movies aren't really top quality... they have the resolution but not the clarity.

Also need to go on to say do you even know what "Full HD" is? For starters it's more or less a marketing term to sell TVs. Secondly I don't think you know what upscaling is. You're never going to get the quality a native signal (as in the image was natively rendered as 1920x1080 before it was packaged into a video file, and in progressive scan. by upscaling a standard definition signal. Look up how upscaling works and what it actually is... it's not really HD it just cleans the image up slightly for playing it on an HDTV.

The 360's add-on is for HDDVD, which is 1080p... however that's a dead format. It's not supported and there will never be a movie produced on it again, let alone additional copies of existing HDDVD movies produced. Stores do not carry HDDVDs or the addons unless it's at a severely reduced price and that's only to clear out the stock.

All 360s built after the revisions made in late 2007 will have an HDMI port in the back. Any 360 with the HDMI port can support 1080p output. Only the elite comes with an HDMI cable I believe though.

Originally Posted by XjapanFOREVER

the 360 is the Vista of game consoles... Cool on the outside, but they rushed it out to make money... the original XBOX owned the PS2 in almost every aspect, it had a hard drive, better processor, and the game selection was fairly good... but they let it go to their heads if you ask me...

Horrible analogy. I get what you were going for but it's just bad. It's a bad analogy because the 360 is a success, Vista is not. Vista is continuing to lose microsoft market share. The funny thing is most of it is because of bad press and the changes from xp that people are so used to.