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01-21-2009, 04:50 AM

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1) Modern Western culture is homogenous? Are you saying that American culture is similar all over the country, or that most Western cultures are the same? Neither are true.
For some reason you leave out some words when you read, making you absolutely impossible to talk to. It's not the same, but there are generally more similarities between different countries in the west, than between western countries and Japan.

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Have you forgotten the fact that Japan has borrowed a ton of things from China? One could easily say that the Asian cultures are homogenous.
That changes nothing.

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2) Ease of access? I can agree that it's easy to watch Japanese cartoons or listen to Japanese music on the internet. But that's pop-culture. Developed or un-developed, there are vast quantities of information on every country on Earth.
You are trying to prove a point by claiming that pop-culture is not culture. That is both wrong, and ignorant.

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EDIT: Plus, you still haven't explained why Japan attracts the freaks and geeks. By your logic, let's take England - it's "more different" than Asian countries, and its TV shows are easy to watch online - Is there a big subculture of Asian weirdos and losers that are absolutely obsessed with English pop-culture?
I believe that a deviant culture might, to a higher degree, attract deviant people.

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Here's my theory: Japan is a leader in "nerdy" technology, such as robots and artificial women. The anime shows plenty of panty shots (for the boys) and effeminate, kissing boys (for the girls). Anime also depicts nerdy guys getting the girl. These factors come together to make lonely nerds believe that Japan is some kind of sexual paradise, and one where they will be accepted and revered, even though they were hated in their home country. This is why they make no effort to learn the Japanese language, or about Japanese culture - they've found all they want to know about within anime and Jrock!
Perhaps, I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but it doesn't in fact contradict what I have been saying.


I give up, because you have no interest in listening to what I'm saying.

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First of all, it's not pretentious. And I'm not the only one in this forum who believes that way. Anime and JRock is just a fraction of what Japan really is. There's alot of people who claims they love Japan, but what they meant is they just love Animes and these effeminate looking guys. Those people wouldnt even bother to explore other things Japan can offer aside from mangas and musicians. How can you people say they like a country without liking it's history? You may say a person can like Japan even he or she ignores and wouldnt give a damn about it's history, that's absolutley wrong. A person may think he loves to eat a whole roast of chicken but in reality he only eats the wings and thinks that other parts doesnt taste good, can you say that that guy loves to eat a whole chicken roast? If you'd just think of the chicken as Japan.
I believe that you can like a country for whatever reason you like. I like my country because of the social security, the freedom, some of the music, the food and a lot of the people, among other things. I couldn't give a toss about vikings or mad kings trying to conquer Europe.


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