[ThirdSight]

It should be noted here that the few two posts are absolute disgraces to men. Everywhere.

It's usually once. If you're going to go for it again, give it some time to simmer whilst you keep hanging out with the girl. Don't expect to disappear for 5-6 months after you ask her out the first time to be swept off her feet.

And those ladies who claim to "like a challenge" either don't know what they really want or are willing to lower their standards to the point of accepting most guys who are willing to put up with them.