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02-15-2009, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralHarlequin View Post
To me, art and beauty are two interchangable words. But...beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

I would say that Geisha are living works of art. Even though they are practitioners of "old" art forms and mediums, I think they still maintain their individuality.

~Most speak, but not all speak the same language.~ and...many people know how to use eloquent language to it's full effect, but everyone has their personal preferences, and so it is with most other things. Just think of a human personality as a glass prism instead of either a black or white sheet of paper. If you simply hold the prism and put it up to your naked eyes, it will appear as nothing more than a tranquil shard. But when you shine the light through it, you will see a spectrum of every color the human senses can detect.

*I feel stupid now*

~ S.A.
I have to disagree.
" Actually beauty is universal. There is an absolute principle in this world that underlies the appearance and disappearance of all phenomena. That is what we call karma. It is constant and immutable, and gives rise to universal values such as beauty and morality." - direct quote from Dr. Tetsuzo Tanigawa.-again quoted from Geisha, a life by Mineko Iwasaki.

This next comment is directed at Alphaducky you belligerent, blithering idiot. Geiko's sole purpose is to entertain PERIOD. Yes its quite true that when the geisha profession first began all of there customers were men, becuase all geisha had to entertain in the red light district, along side the yujo, or prostitutes. But only because they had to entertain in the red light districts were all customers men, becuase it is very highly unlikely that a woman would go to a redlight distrist to have a nice time with hookers. But once they had their own districts in which to live and work in did women become customers. Geisha enjoyed being around those of their own sex rather than men. And finally Geisha are indeed art, in all forms, visual, audiol, etc. The whole comment about geisha not being great singers, dancers, etc. I quite srongly disagree. Geisha dances are quite creative, and by far the best dancing i've ever seen. trust me i know, my sisters were in ballet, my cousins in tap and jaz, and my friend is a krumper(although krumping is hardly an art). but back to the point rather me go on an endless rant. Geisha are the beat singers, dancers, etc. found anywhere in this universe. You even said geisha creativity is limited and they are taught evrything they know about dance and music, this is only partly true. A geisha may be taught how to view certain things, one of these is to use true emotion whilst dancing. for example everything pertaining to geisha life and culture is open for interpretation, except A) They are absolutely not in any from of fashion prortitutes, nor will they ever be. B) Geisha are always beutiful in one way or another. If not physically attractive than through their arts. if not through arts than physically. if through neither of these than through her glittering personality and wit. If through none of these than this women can not be called a geisha, she is just a boring bar hostess.
All geisha dances are up for interpratation as well. If a geiko is dancing 'Kurokami' then a whole plethora of opinions is open for discussion. This dance's message is concrete: Sadness. But one cannot tell what said geisha is feeling sadness over, perhaps at leaving their long apprenticeship behind them and entering the adult geisha world where they will ahve to rely on talent and wit as opposed to an extravagent costume and childlike innocence. 'kurokami' seeing as its traditionally performed at the ceremony when a maiko leaves maikohood and enters the adult geisha world. or Perhaps a brokenheart over a previous lover or boyfriend, or maybe recent death that hit them hard. In all cases geisha are art, through the way they dress, talk, comport and carry themselves, as well as their whole way of life all art. Geisha are the art, artist, as well as an art. In much the sameway as God is the trinity the father, the son and the holy spirit, ne? Geisha are a irreplacable part of japanese culture, as is kabuki,noh and shamisen music, wthout the shamisen there would be no geisha, kabuki, and no Noh. As is the oterway without Geisha,shamisen, kabuki, and noh there would be no japan. I will no go to sleep because I'm done eduacting idiots for the day. I beleive I've made my point.
Sainara Min'na-san!
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