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Originally Posted by Sangetsu
I see this as a problem for America, Japan, and other industrialized nations. China's rise can only come at our expense. That may be selfish, but looking after our own interests first is natural. Don't believe for a minute that China is thinking any differently.
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Sangetsu, you would be absolutely correct in that analysis, but it also enforces my point that the Chinese goverment is smart when it comes to economic policies (of course these policies are tipped heavily towards the Chinese side).
Otherwise, we would have another Africa, all talk, no economic progress. Oh I sometimes wonder how else does the west think you could get rid of poverty?
I was just pointing out that you should avoid analogies that are factually wrong like China consumes less Japanese goods than California (unless California somehow accounts for 90% of all Japanese imports to the US).
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I've been to Shanghai, and other parts of China, and so far I'm not impressed. China seeks to eclipse America as the world's greatest power, and all efforts made by the Chinese government in the last decade have been made toward this end.
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I can't disagree more. All China cares about is $$ and how to get everyone rich. It doesn't care about political influence. When's the last time you heard China telling another country a lecture on what to do (apart from North Korea... but that's another issue). The interview with the Chinese Premier WenJiaBao by CNN clearly shows that China is not a superpower, China is still relatively poor, and that priority is given to economic progress. Why else do you think they keeps on drumming about this "Harmonius rise" sloagon.
China cuts economic deals with nasty regimes because it is 100% apathetic of other countries policies and doesn't stand on some moral high ground like the US. As long as there is $$ for China, it's a good deal. Of course it is also learning that totally ignoring who you deal with could really backfire (Sudan, Zimbabwe comes to mind).
At the end of the day, the government is too busy trying to provide everyone with bread and circus so it can continue the one party rule rather than worring about what's going on elsewhere. Fair enough I say.