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03-02-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kirakira View Post
Thanks for calling me an idiot, i thought we could keep this civil and not resort to name calling. Alas. Well I'm just thinking on their behalf. If they declared independence, surely they will lose all those benefits from being part of NZ. So why on earth would they?

Again, bread and circus always wins out.

Back to the issue of Tibet, I'm not expressing my opinion here. Tibet is part of China. With China growing more powerful by the day (buying US treasury bills), it is unlikely Tibet's soverignty will change.
You're missing the point. In a democracy the idea is that the people have the power. Ultimately the only people giving anyone "bread" is themselves.

You might not be expressing your opinion but I'm expressing mine. China invaded Tibet in the 1950's, exiled it's spiritual leader and head of state and has restricted Tibet's right to self-determination. Tibet is only a part of China because it has forced itself onto Tibet.

I have no problem with Tibet being a part of China if that is what Tibet wants. Let Tibetan people have a say in their own future by at least giving them a referendum (like Timor Leste did when they were a part of Indonesia.)

Also I wouldn't be so sure of China's future. The economic recession hit China hard aswell. China has only come to power on the back of the West and other countries. It has a long way to go before it can truly claim global superpower status. Untill that time... what the West thinks matters to China. Hopefully awareness over the injustice which is the Chinese occupation of Tibet can help pressure the CCP into giving them a say at least. (Perhaps all it's citizens will have a say one day)

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