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Originally Posted by kirakira
You are way too idealisic, because you are taking so much of what you have for granted. I.e. Education, Food, Infrastructure and Social Stability. Without these things, nothing works, Democracy or whatever. How do you even expect people to exercise democracy if they can't even read? Free speech doesn't feed anyone, it doesn't fill stomaches.
If free speech is so important, why doesn't Hiliray Clinton clamp on China for "human right" violations instead of begging like a dog for more $$.
So if life is so great in free speech NZ, why aren't Singaporeans escaping authoritarian Singapore to sheep land. Why is Singapore on the US visa waiver program? Wouldn't everyone just flee to free America? It does not make any sense.
My argument is simple, economics rules above people running their mouths. What is human right is the right to be educated, and the right to be fed. There are a lot of countries that can't even get these 2 things right for the majority but they have ample of free speech rights, i.e. they can run their mouth all day. India comes to mind. But do people have good quality of life there? I doubt it (not the majority at least).
Have you been to China/India/Singapore? I've been to all of those places, I know the difference first hand.
Ronin, you and many others like you are promoting an ideology that is a luxury, not an necessity. What better example than the US's priorities right now.
In the end, I like to conclude that economic growth comes from competent leadership, there is no subsitute.
Btw I have been to Wellington, beautiful city, sea on one side, hill on the opposite and I loved the cable cars  . |
Oh geez... another irrelevant rant.
You talk as though the two are mutually exclusive and inherently at odds with each other.
You cannot excuse oppression for the sake of economic stability. Either in theory or in the case of Tibet. It makes no logical sense.
I may be promoting an ideology but so are you. You are blind to think otherwise.