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Originally Posted by Sinestra
-some of his views do have grounds for discussion though once again i may not agree with them but the truth is the truth no matter what kind of spin you put on it. These debates are very touchy and usually end up getting so emotional you get no where.
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I agree... kira does have grounds for discussion on some of his points. It's a shame that those points are irrelevant when it comes to my argument and probably belong in a thread all their own. I do disagree with those points off the bat though. (This thread itself, I think has strayed from the original broader topic of a change in dynamics and potential shifting of the balance of power in the Asia Pacific region... mods?)
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Originally Posted by Sinestra
-There is a reason why many other nations have not stepped in and tried to pressure the Chinese on Tibet.
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Many states haven't stepped in because of China's power. But in saying that many states make an issue of it whenever officials meet. The US included. It is pretty safe to say that the West dissaproves of China's occupation of Tibet.
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Originally Posted by Sinestra
-I would like to see the relations stabilize and the standard of living raise there weather it be under Chinese rule or if the Tibetans were given a choice and voted for independence.
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I suppose that's the next best thing to obtaining political will.... but why should we demand anything less if we
morally believe the Tibetans have that right?
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Originally Posted by Sinestra
-Do i believe any nation has the right to be rules by another no. But its a lot more complicated then just saying ok Tibet your on your own.
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It is a lot more complicated than that you're right. If Tibet was declared independent, China's responsibility as former occupier would be to transition it to independence (like what the US is supposedly doing in Iraq i.e. fixing the mess they created). Failing that the International community (i.e. the UN) would hopefully step in like they did when Timor Leste broke away from Indonesia.
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Originally Posted by Sinestra
-I disagree with a shit load of policies from China a shit load from the states and some from Japan but do these countries have the will to improve. Right now China nor US deserves any glorification of any kind. If you think one country is better than the other you are only fueling the fire that will keep the status quo the same many more years.
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I hope that's somehow not directed at me... On this forum I constantly stand up for what I think is right regardless of my affection (or lack of) for a country's culture and history. In fact I have directed criticism at all the countries you list on this website. Most recent thing that springs to mind is the whaling thread in which I declare my disgust at Japanese whaling (please... if you want to pick that up and run with it then take it to that thread). I otherwise happen to be fascinated with Japan and it's culture and am studying the language at university.