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Originally Posted by KyleGoetz
Berrypie, in your supposed examples of "to be heard" and "to be seen," you didn't use either.
In both your "see" examples, you used the active voice. In both your "hear" examples, you used the active voice. Neither time did you use the passive you claimed to be about to use.
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Berrypie's examples are textbook examples, they can't be wrong. This has nothing to do with passive tense. This has everything to do with the potential form of 見る which is 見られる. I think you got confused because the passive tense of 見る is also 見られる. We are not talking about passive tense clearly.
There are 2 additional verbs which has similar meaning to the potential form of 見られる and 聞かれる which is 見える and 聞こえる and it's the difference between the two Berrypie is trying to figure out.