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Originally Posted by solemnclockwork
I've already walking an line here with several of my posts, I'm not going to go there with you. Not to mention that will take this far off topic. I'm certainly not going to turn this into an debate about religion and request that you do not either.
I'll ask you which is more fair, an law which puts an higher tax on cigarettes then coke (Pepsi etc.)? Laws in essence are NOT fair. Every Government is majority rule, only few like the US (constitution) has some measure to provide with minorities. Regardless of that, you cannot expect individuals to put away there compass to make law, (how in the first place are they supposed to have any understanding of what they view when they are asked to discard there held views), if there not an rationalist why should they be required to think like one?
Oh, I so do like your Iran comment, So many much says about that.
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I'm not walking a fine line... I'm not discussing religious ideas in themselves. I'm discussing the role and place of religion in society.
And you haven't really addressed my point. I was saying that law in most Western societies are based on rationale not belief.
The laws which tax cigarettes and alcohol higher than the price of food can be justified rationally.
Also... of course I don't expect people to put away their moral compass when making laws. However I do expect (at least in my country)... that my government, (whether I agree with it or not) can rationally justify their decisions in the spirit of the principles it was founded on.
To me that means that religion remain in the domain of the individual.
Oh and what was wrong with my Iran comment? Iran is a society which implements Muslim Shari'a law. I'm sure you can connect the dots.