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Originally Posted by Barone1551

Sorry I forgot you were a teacher of mine, how silly of me. I would never try anything like that with a boss or teacher. I don't think it was a cop out or excuse at all. I was trying to prove to you it was as simple as searching google. You didn't like that... sorry... i guess. Ill remember that next time Im discussing my opinion with someone on a forum. And it wasn't an exuse, I didn't have time to post articles. Its as simple as that. I thought if I showed you some interesting articles and discussions on boards about the topic, you may actually take a look. I guess not Ill try harder next time.

And yes sorry I didn't really mean fox news in specifically I just meant conservative news. It was sarcasm, my bad. You degraded articles that were left wing liberal, I just assumed you were on the far right conservative. I made an assumption, my fault.

And about her being an adult, she was 18 when the comment was made. She is an adult. I think children should be left out, don't get me wrong. But she is no longer a child. When the family is treated like they are celebrities then they can be treated the same way other celebrities are. It doesn't make it ok, but it does happen in the media. When the father of Bristols kid is being interviewed on cable tv, you are a celeb in my book. When her husband is the judge of the Miss America pageant, you are now a celeb. Take the good and the bad you receive from being a celebrity. Thats my two cents. Take it or leave it.

About the articles on being and "adult". It proved my point because they all stated that being mentally as mature as an adult was a factor. This is what I have been saying all along. There isn't a magical switch that makes you and adult. You never answered these questions from before so ill ask again. Are you really that much more of an adult at 17 years 354 days than you are when your exactly 18? Is there some magical thing that makes you turn into an adult? Thats all im trying to say is you can be an adult or as mature as an adult before you turn 18. She was pregnant when she was 17, I would consider her an adult.... i feel like i have said this all before.

And whats your point about it being the #1 station. Does that make it always correct? Is it then always 100% factual? Its still just opinions, just because lots of people have the same opinion, doesn't make it fact.

You very well knew what I meant about the "teacher, mentor, boss" comment. So what is the point of the "user identification"?

You don't get it, YOU don't ask SOMEONE else to LOOK up INFORMATION, that YOU are supposed to PROVIDE. No saying you don't have time is NO excuse, really go tell that to someone else and see how far you get!

really? I don't look at what others have posted? Seriously? Evidence points toward I do on this thread.

I don't read blog spots if that is what your asking. I don't care what news I get AS LONG as it is fair, to which huffington post is not. I don't usually watch Hannity, nor do I listen to talk radio. I do have news on around the day. At the most consistent people I listen to is O'reilly, Glenn, and Gretta (yes they are all fox news and I do find fox news to be the most natural network) Interesting about those is Glenn is an libertarian, O'reilly is an independent I don't know what Gretta is. Both O'reilly and glenn have conservative views.

Daily Kos: WTF is Going on at the Huffington Post?


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This one you posted was vile and I can say that with clarity.

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As I have stated Children of Public figures are to be left alone. She is not an public speaker AND child of Sarah Palin. I was wrong on her age, and her being 18 does not bar that. Legally she is an adult, emotionally like you where saying does play a role her too. That said my point still stands. I have also stated celebrities SHOULD NOT be treated the way they are, as such the Palins (wither you believe they are an celebrity is not the issue) take from that also. This comes home to saying it's not ok, but still letting it happen is wrong. You don't believe it is right correct? Then why don't you stand against it? This is the point, you don't let something that is wrong go on do you?

Your missing an key point there, they say AS an adult to which they understand they actions. They also beg to differ on wither children should be tried as adults and provide arguments against that. I have said I was going from the LEGAL and PSYCHOLOGICALLY when you are considered and adult. I have answered the question. Legally yes it does make an difference. The psychological part you have ignored me making. To which one I say i bet a lot of 21 year old are not mature enough to be considered an adult. So without knowing Bristol I'm still going to consider her a child until she proves shes an adult (question then begs to differ how does one prove, to which I reply in time).

COMMENTATORS have opinions NOT NEWSCASTERS. Yes there is an point in providing that information, think about it.

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It's not just me that is saying this.

Originally Posted by minimin

Hmmmmm. *sigh* I don't feel like arguing or stating facts to you, this is ridiculous. Anyone states an opinion or feeling and you jump on them. Arguing online is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. You want facts go find them yourself. I stated my opinion and i stand by it. Watch tv read the news look online and you'll see why. if you don't that's your problem. And you could be one depends(and you say 80% of America are Christians but do they go flaunting it and forcing it on people, all 80%). who knows i don't know you, yet Sara Palin and all her problems and associations have been seen in the media. I stated my opinion deal with it.

PS, i still stand by this--->Shes a right wing extremist, who seems to have as many brain cells as a lampshade. Good riddance, don't care if she comes back.

Bye-Bye

Childish sayings, without support. You don't provide evidence to support your argument, you make baseless assumptions so In retrospect your argument is invalid as you continue to not provide merit.

Stating facts is ridiculous? on what grounds? Do I have to remind you that this is an forum and as such I'm well within the grounds to challenge what someone writes on here. Yet we still argue and debate so I really doubt you saying it is ridiculous has any merit on the actual conversation that is going on. SO I go back to this, your "points" remain false until you back them up.

Ok this Also goes to everybody also, telling someone to go find the information is such an incredibly poor excuse that boarders the line that you shouldn't posted at all. You make an claim BACK it up. Remember your education.

I've written it before and I'll do it again. Opinions matter little when they are not supported. Also I might add opinion does not equal fact.

I also have addressed points about Sarah in the news, and a good bunch of blogs.

Originally Posted by minimin

And you could be one depends(and you say 80% of America are Christians but do they go flaunting it and forcing it on people, all 80%).

I would expect you to be able to understand you cannot make that assumption without knowing who I am (saying who knows is not an valid assumption as there is not information to even come to that conclusion I would also add that in this very thread I have stated that I'm considering going independent in party affiliation.), to which is the point of asking that. I never said 80% of the country are actual Christians but "SAY" they are. there was a point in posting that, three fold one having Christian belief in America is NOT Extremist right. Two she would be more in line with an good majority of the country, making her more moderate conservative then you believe she is. Last, is not everyone is what they say they are, so we look toward there actions to see. last comment could of been done without.