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07-16-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SSJup81 View Post
solemnclockwork, imo, you really need to just quit it. There's nothing wrong with one stating his or her opinion on a situation, as long as the person isn't stating it as a fact. From what I've observed, you're the only one acting in such a manner as to making demands for people to defend their opinions and the fact that people are literally writing, "IMO" or using words to imply that it's obviously an opinionated statement should be enough. Phrases such as "I feel" or "in my opinion", etc., show this.
If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. theirs an point to posting that phrase.

Do you understand the implications of posting such and such on a forum. If so how can you tell me to "quit"?

I've repeatably said opinion are equal, as such I ALSO stated that this is an debate.

Example.

I believe that girls are scum. Do I

A. Have the right for people to take my word for it?
B. Have the right for people not to challenge it?
C. Have the right to debase someone?
d. have the right to state my opinion, with the extent of my peers taking my word for it?

I also have stated since the beginning of me joining this forum, you provide evidence to claims or have that claim invalid.

I'll take as evidence towards one of my first posts on water boarding. I stated water boarding was not torture because my opinion was that torture was something that had lasting damage and physiological effects. Well Rohin4hire challenged me on it. Put it simply I fell back on it being my opinion. Point here to make is that your opinion is not protected against being challenged. In this thread I have not said anybodies wrong for having an opinion, I have challenged the contents of that opinion, to which is well within the scope of the site to do so. In conteplation I do regret I used that phrase in that debate.


Those phrases does NOT protect them from being challenged do they not?

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Originally Posted by minimin View Post
As said, I won't indulge in online arguments. and you said "around 80% of Americans call themselve Christians." but as i said YOU DONT SEE THEM PRANCING AROUND TALKING ABOUT THEIR BELIEF LIKE YOU SEE HER DOING, and if you watched all her coverage on all stations as i did you would notice the difference between and ordinary citizen and their beliefs and her(the politician)well i guess not anymore. and your right christian belief isnt all extremist right(my family are Christians, I dont see them as religious right) . Im sure you know what i mean by that name im putting on certain people on the right but you choose to look just at that. Thats okay though. harhar. and yeah it was called for, because its how I feel(My opinion) if you don't like it don't keep quoting me, and finding a reason to complain about what I say. Its what I believe. I will always be what i believe, she was a crappy Governor and she would've been a mucho worse VP.
Then I really hate to say this,

don't post where there is an debate.

Get the quote right

Do you live in America? You do know around 80% of the country "says" they are Christians SO how can you call her an "religious right wing extremist"? In light of that information how do you content that around 80% percent of the country is extremists?

Seriously? prancing around talking about there belief like she does? WHEN did it become wrong to have your religion as principle?

I have an biblical quote in my name page, I know the difference. As that is stated you did not back up yourself again.

Labeling is generally bad. "Extremist far right" is also an very bad term, hence the reason why I focus on that.

"It's my opinion" is an fall back. Reason being I can't challenge you having that opinion, as such I can challenge what that opinion is. You want to keep your opinion no one stopping you, just don't think you can freely say what you want without someone challenging it (what's happening here).

I'm tired of this "it's my opinion" tactic and I'm ending it.

I am entitled to an opinion

I'm entitled to my opinion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am entitled to my opinion (as fallacy) - ForumGarden

You are not entitled to your opinion

Why You Are Not Entitled To Your Opinion : DaytonOS

Sorry, but you are not entitled to your opinion | Jamie Whyte - Times Online


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31 Whether therefore ye eat or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give none offense, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God. 33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
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