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Originally Posted by solemnclockwork
If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. theirs an point to posting that phrase.
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I wasn't really in it to begin with. I gave my opinion and left it at that. I can't help how I
feel. I shouldn't have to defend that.
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Do you understand the implications of posting such and such on a forum. If so how can you tell me to "quit"?
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I guess I should've rephrased. IMO, you should just quit with the way you're acting towards the other posters. IMO, you're coming across as a tad bit rude and not being very respectful of other people's opinions.
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I've repeatably said opinion are equal, as such I ALSO stated that this is an debate.
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I never realized this was a debate and was more so for speculation.
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Example.
I believe that girls are scum. Do I
A. Have the right for people to take my word for it?
B. Have the right for people not to challenge it?
C. Have the right to debase someone?
d. have the right to state my opinion, with the extent of my peers taking my word for it?
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Could be a combination, but, it's the way you do it that makes it seem rude. You're literally demanding people to defend their own opinions and that's what I find kind of "wrong".
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I also have stated since the beginning of me joining this forum, you provide evidence to claims or have that claim invalid.
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I can understand this
if a person is trying to pass of an opinion as an actual fact. I can say something like, "Summer is the worst season out of all of the seasons." I just stated that as a fact. It's obviously "not true" since everyone is different and not everyone dislikes summer. IMO, it's the worst season, though, but if a person said so, and clearly made it obvious it was an opinion, I wouldn't really question it, unless it was something like, "What do you like about summer since you enjoy it so much?"
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I'll take as evidence towards one of my first posts on water boarding. I stated water boarding was not torture because my opinion was that torture was something that had lasting damage and physiological effects.
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If I'd seen this, I don't think I would've said too much, sine you said "IMO". It's your opinion. No need to truly have to back it up, especially if it's a subjective topic. Now, to me, I respectfully disagree. Anything done to cause discomfort, be it mentally or physically, just to obtain information, I would call it a form of torture, in other words, I feel that there are different types, the one you mentioned, being one of many. I would state my opinion and leave at that since it's my opinion. This is how I
feel on the matter. Would it be necessary to ask for me to prove this claim, if this is just my opinion on the matter?
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Point here to make is that your opinion is not protected against being challenged. In this thread I have not said anybodies wrong for having an opinion, I have challenged the contents of that opinion, to which is well within the scope of the site to do so. In conteplation I do regret I used that phrase in that debate.
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Like I said, though, it's not the fact that you challenge, it's how you come across. You come across as rude and demanding. You're not really coming across as respecting the other person's opinion or even trying to understand where the other person is coming from.