[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by solemnclockwork

I argue for the sake of the poster they shouldn't be that way. Very strong in that, at the end of the day they should know that they are entitled to that. I'm not debating that, what I have been saying all along is challange her political views not her.

For me, it gets to the point where I just don't care. Can't truly change some people's views, as they are stubborn, even if the evidence is right in front of him/her.

How so? I've only challenge the content of the post not the poster. I need more to go on then this.

I said you came across this way, even if it was unintentional.

I never said your view was wrong. What happen was I debated with you in two ways; one being her college life is an example of her being an "quitter" and two being what conclusion I came to by your writing. This is normal in every conversation.

But it still came across as if I had to reach your conclusion. I understood it, and even agreed partially with it (she did get her degree after all), but the fact she had to go through so many schools to get it, to me wasn't a good thing.

True. I ask this, do I have to take your opinion without applying my own? Can I post what I think of what had been posted?

There's nothing wrong with that, just as long as you don't come across as being demanding or come across in a way where the correct interpretation is yours. As I said before, it's probably unintentional on your part.

Then I would ask why she comes across as an bubble, and why you think she wasn't very knowledgeable. Point is they have to arrive at that conclusion some how and I want to have an conversation with them and because I don't know how they come that way it's hard to see there point.

Now this I have no problem with. You're just responding the query and asking about it. You're not coming across in a "You better prove your point" manner or anything.

You still don't get it, I have the same right to state how I feel about the subject. I also have the same right to comment on how others take it. there have been people her stating some things as facts and I challenged that.

To me, I haven't seen that.

That's not how it works. Take me and what I have done her as an example. When you publicly state an opinion you put it out there so people may comment on it.

No problem with commenting on it, it's when you come across as demanding that's the problem, and when you do that, you're not coming across as respectful of the other poster. As I mentioned above, it may not be intentional on your part.

saying she is an quitter because she didn't finish one college is an accusation, is it not?

Multiple colleges, not just one. What do you call it when one attends a school, or anything, and doesn't finish it? Is that not quitting? I'm not twisting it. Besides, I didn't say she was a quitter. I said she's "coming across as one". There's a big difference. Saying she's a quitter, would be my saying it as if it's a fact, but I have no proof of that, as I don't know if there were mitigating circumstances that led her to have to quit all of these universities/colleges so prematurely. My saying that she's coming across as a quitter because she quit so many schools and now her position as governor, is pure opinion.

I got it, that way I debated it with you. You don't think otherwise do you? So I still think you believe that way. What is happening is I'm debating her, and at the end of the day it's up to how you think and come to an conclusion based on what was written.

Well, unless I know more about the circumstances, she still is going to come across as a "quitter" to me.

You really are going to have to elaborate, I don't see this myself doing what your saying.

I have to apologize for this one. I actually meant to go back and edit that, but saw that you'd already responded, so disregard the entire comment. ^^ It is very inaccurate.