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07-21-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alanX View Post
You're a liberal tree-hugger, aren't you? Not bashing... just asking.

It is their fault. They're gay. Bottom line, there's nothing else to it. It's not a mental issue, not a disease, not a self-conscious issue, they're gay. Stop trying to make it difficult.

They want to change because they're gay. And they have a reason to be gay. Usually along the lines of wanting to stand out, or just be different from society, or just to be rebellious. There is no "gay disease" that makes people gay when they're born. That's not how life works, face reality.
Sorry WHAT? No, that's not true at all! There might be a trend at the moment that bisexuality and homosexuality is an 'in' thing, but many homosexuals aren't identifying as such just to rebel or stand out. In fact a lot of homosexuals make a great effort to blend in, refute the stereotype and prefer NOT stand out in any way.

And whilst i'll agree it's certainly not a 'disease', homosexuality is and has been proven to be underlined by certain biological phenomena; for some it's not 'just a decision' and transgender DOES NOT equate to homosexual either. Some, even post op, still prefer or remain attracted to the chromosome opposite gender. What could be called 'Male lesbianism', for example.

Frankly it's ridiculous to dismiss the idea of gender identity disorders, or try and parcel them as 'gay'. Homosexuals don't wake every morning feeling that they are one thing, only to be repeatedly confronted with a body and a society that screams the complete opposite. Homosexual men don't identify as female and Lesbian women don't identify as male. It's a completely separate issue.

It's also ridiculous to try and separate mental and physical; the majority of mental disorders have some degree of underlying physiological anomaly, even socially triggered disorders. Moreover, any so-called aberration of the body, even something as straightforward as a broken leg, affects the mind to some degree. It works the other way around as well; good health leads to a positive outlook. Disease and mind (and by association self-consciousness) are all highly inter-related. Any doctor or psychologist would tell you that.
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