[Salvanas]

Originally Posted by TalnSG

Ok, that is the classic scenario for rape FANTASIES, and has nothing whatsoever to do with reality. And that is where my first serious opbjection to these games begins.

This reinforce the viscious myth that women only resist sex and have to have it forced upon them, after which they will enjoy it. That is the single most wide spread justification presented by defendants in date rape prosecutions. And since this it marketed to teenagers, it needs to stop.

From another perspective, I used to be heavily involved in both S&M and Domestic Violence education. Guess what the strongest link between to is ... rape fantasies!

But, nearly every time someone decides to play one out for real with a willing partner, the person in power is the first to discover that reality is scarey and it is the wrong path to head down. Unfortunately there are those exceptions and the partner is seriously damaged emotionally, psychologically and physically.

I don't say these should be banned, but I do say that their distribution needs to be extremely controlled. The problem is devising workable controls and when that is not feasible, then the issued of prohibiting the production needs to be re-examined.

I see your point, but again, all it does is re-enforce the point that people who have the mindset to rape someone, will do so regardless of a game. Ah, if you think that rape games should be changed to show the reality of the action, then perhaps so. That's understandable, in a way I agree with you.

I, again, would like to state that a fantasy is a fantasy. It does no harm, unless the person who has the fantasy will injure someone while acting out the fantasy.

It's a power problem. Let me give you a perfect example. And I'm going to use my own self for this example to drive the point home. I played a game a few months ago, called God of War, where you play someone who chops, and cuts his way through multiple levels, with limbs flying everywhere, screams cutting out through the darkness. Your character pulls off a few gruesome combos, and most people I was with, cringed as if feeling the pain.

I on the other hand, was enjoying it, more so than someone who is playing the game. I found out, at that point in time, that I have this weird sadistic sort of fantasy inside me. You can imagine what I'm getting at, so I won't go on.

Is it bad for me to have this fantasy? No. But if I enacted it in reality, then it would be. Luckily, however, that I am not the type of person. If I was, however, regardless if I had played that game, I would have already enacted such acts in reality. It's all down to the person.

Someone who is ill, mentally, will stay ill mentally, regardless of whatever they hear, or see.

Salvanas, I thought you knew me better than to misinterpret my motivation behind the questions.

Your statistics are exactly why I raised the question. The games do not accurately reflect the crime it is supposed to be about, unless it factors in the assaults on men. And those assaults are perpetrated on men by both genders. You prooved my point that the games are extremely bias and prejudicial against females; by the mere exclusion of men as victims - incorrectlyinferring that males are too superior to fall victim to such assaults.

And yet again Taln, I can turn that on it's head. It's victimising men, saying that only men are the one who rapes, and women are not capable.

It's not only bias against women. You'll find it's prejudicial against both sexes. I'm sure we can both agree on that.

But, the problem is, I dislike using that as an excuse. Because I don't feel that has any relevance. Although I'm an egalitarian (equal rights for all races and sexes. And no, it's not feminism. Feminism isn't about equality any more) some things in life are as they are.

I don't mind men being some of the victims in these rape games, only if the roles are switched, and women are the rapist. Fair trade.

Also, interestingly, I know a few women who play these rape games, because they have fantasies about being raped.