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08-09-2009, 04:50 AM

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I don`t recall Tsuwabuki ever saying he was interested in adopting from the US. I answered his inquiry under the assumption that he was not looking into adoption from the US, but rather from the countries he actually listed; PRC and ROC. If he is able to adopt a child, then there should be no issue with bringing the child into Japan as a dependent if it below 6. This is a fact. He also stated that he wasn`t going to go out and do this tomorrow - he says "next few years" in the first post. If it were a futile effort to even consider it, wouldn`t it be best to know this before investing time or money in the endeavor? I don`t believe it is my or your place to judge someone, particularly based on a simple question asked on a forum.
uhhh.. Public forum, public opinions... So yes... yes I can judge...

Oh I read the part about in the next couple of years when he spoke up and said, "this is only a plan/concept" to the poster who replied "why bring a child into a discriminating society as Japan"

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Even though it is clear that Tsuwabuki is not asking about an adoption of a child from the US, I am curious. How, may I ask, would it be negligent to allow someone who lives outside or has plans to live outside the US to adopt a child? You have mentioned discrimination issues, and culture/language issues... but how is that a different situation than bringing a child from outside the US into the US? International adoptions are far from unheard of, and I assure you the stress is the same for the child no matter where they move to. In my opinion, the fact that a child is "adopted" will make no difference in Japan. The fact that they`re not Japanese will totally outweigh this. I highly doubt that adoption itself will ever be an issue if the child is not Japanese.
In the case of a child from another Asian country, I would imagine it would be slightly LESS stressful as the chances of them fitting in with everyone would be raised. The age *limit* is 6, it`s not a set age for adoption. A child adopted at 1 to 3 is unlikely to experience much of a language/culture clash.
Negligent in that fact that he is adopting as a single parent and taking the child into a foreign environment. In Japan is a documented fact that discrimination of children by other children And Adults because they are different by race, culture, having only one parent, or have one of the parents not be their blood parents or a combination of these.

The difference is he is an american citizen. The board would fail him based on the fact they are unable to determine if the well being of the child is being looked after in a foreign country that they have no pull in.

Yes I know its six as stated in this thread.

It wouldn't be stressful just from the dynamics of the ijime in japan.

Japanese in general do not like other Asians in general. That of course is not EVERY Japanese but it is the mindset... so you are WAY off there...


This is not the case all the time true... but it does happen and it happens ENOUGH.

Its true some "halves" do get a certain extra popularity through their life in Japan, but not the case all the time... Being different can be applauded in Japan under the right circumstances.


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You seem to make a point of talking about things in a negative way. From what I can see, it looks more like you "tolerate" Japan at best.
You see it as negative because again its not being written as 100% peaches and cream.

Now who is making assumptions? Yes I only tolerate my family and friends who are Japanese...

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I`m curious where you get the idea that I am some young kid in Japan for a couple years...?

Okay I know its rude to ask a lady her age... but how old are you my dear? I really don't care, no need to post if don't feel like it.

I mean you write like a youngster so I just assumed...

Doesn't matter to me really..

Does it bother you that I think/thought that?

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The problem isn`t with pointing out that there are negative things in Japan. The problem is with pointing them out as if they`re the ONLY things in Japan. Not everyone is going to leap to discriminate - that is, in my experience, a very VERY small minority.
Oh I agree... but posting about the bringing an adopted child into Japan left me little to compliment Japan... I will make some ice cream sundae posts on Japan later... this isn't the thread for my dear.


Well at least you admit there is a small minority.. unlike Napoleon
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Presenting Japan as a place where there is little other than discrimination and racism is no different than presenting it as a perfect paradise. Both are wrong.


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I haven`t commented on US issues, so will not reply to this bit.
Excellant.

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Please re-read the first post. You will see that it isn`t, which is apparently leading to a lot of misunderstanding in this thread.
Well then I guess you better ask Mr. Brain to learn how to post / explain so there won't be.


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That is really unfortunate, but in my experiences if you know where to look and the right path to take - it`s no harder than for a Japanese person. Adoption is hard in Japan. It has nothing to do with your race. Talk to Japanese who have tried to adopt, and you`ll find 10, 20, 30 failed attempts and fear that the guardian will change their mind up until the very day that things are transferred legally. Japan simply does not have an adoption infrastructure. Plan to spend 2 to 5 years working with different facilities and then with guardians to actually get anywhere.


Adoption in Japan: It has plenty to do with your race... and that I can tell you from personal experience. Again not in any written rules but "unofficially" it does... words straight from the administrator.

"if you know where to look and the right path" is ridiculous

There isn't a national infrastructure but the process is realtively the same.

2 to 5 years and then no guarentees is something I can agree on. 2 is really pushing it.
But for me being a foreigner ...it will never happen... aside from them writing it in blood and stamping a hanko to the fact...

I think tsuwabuki can post for himself when he is not going over his credientials, how responsible he is and his accomplishments...

but feel free to post about how wrong I am to post my opinions in a negative way.

Cheers.
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