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08-09-2009, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by clintjm View Post
uhhh.. Public forum, public opinions... So yes... yes I can judge...

Oh I read the part about in the next couple of years when he spoke up and said, "this is only a plan/concept" to the poster who replied "why bring a child into a discriminating society as Japan"
I guess I was understanding his message in a different way than you have. To me, it appeared he was asking whether bringing an adopted child into Japan was a possibility. Not whether he would be a good parent, or whether any country would allow him to adopt a child. I leave that judgement up to those who actually make those decisions.
If it were impossible to bring an adopted child into Japan, it would be a moot point from day one.

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Negligent in that fact that he is adopting as a single parent and taking the child into a foreign environment.
I can`t say I have a high opinion of the choice to raise a child as a single parent. Especially at an age where it is completely and totally possible that he will decide to have a relationship later on. A child could (99% chance) seriously complicate that.
But - if he is totally serious about not being interested in a relationship, marriage, or the problems adopted a child before that could bring... I still see it as better for a child to have one parent than NO parents. Any adopted child will be entering a "foreign" environment, even if adopted in their own country.

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In Japan is a documented fact that discrimination of children by other children And Adults because they are different by race, culture, having only one parent, or have one of the parents not be their blood parents or a combination of these.
You can say the same thing about most other countries too... In fact, I think it would be very hard to find a country where this does not happen. Does such a perfect place even exist??
That reasoning would still apply to any non-Japanese child in Japan. Is it negligent or irresponsible to bring or have a biological child into Japan if you are not Japanese?

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The difference is he is an american citizen. The board would fail him based on the fact they are unable to determine if the well being of the child is being looked after in a foreign country that they have no pull in.
This may be true. I don`t know. If they judge him unsuitable to be an adoptive parent, then they do. All I know is that IF he were able to adopt, he could indeed bring the child into Japan as a dependent if they are under 6.

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It wouldn't be stressful just from the dynamics of the ijime in japan.
You seem to be taking ijime as a given. That it will DEFINITELY happen no matter what. I don`t believe that`s the case, unless we count pretty much every childhood issue as "ijime". But if we do so, every child out there is going to have been bullied as a child.

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Japanese in general do not like other Asians in general. That of course is not EVERY Japanese but it is the mindset... so you are WAY off there...
If they are advertising the fact that they are not Japanese, perhaps so. But if they are just THERE, yes - I do believe that I am correct. It`s a matter of appearance. If they look Japanese enough, then they will pass as Japanese if they have been in Japan long enough and have picked up the typical Japanese mannerisms.

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You see it as negative because again its not being written as 100% peaches and cream.
No, I see it as so because you have yet to write anything that is not mostly negative. When you have written things that do not emphasis negative aspects, or do not sound like you are picking a fight (as your exchanges with Tsuwabuki sound) I may change my opinion.

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Now who is making assumptions? Yes I only tolerate my family and friends who are Japanese...
Family and friends are people, individuals. Not a country or culture. I never said you hated Japanese *people*.

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Okay I know its rude to ask a lady her age... but how old are you my dear? I really don't care, no need to post if don't feel like it.

I mean you write like a youngster so I just assumed...

Doesn't matter to me really..
You apparently perceive my writing to be that of a "youngster" because it doesn`t agree with you. I went to part of high school, attended and graduated university in Japan, have been married (in Japan, to a Japanese citizen) for 8 years, have a child with lifelong disabilities, and have medical issues preventing me from having another if I don`t want the same thing to happen. Oh, and I`m not an English teacher either. Right now, I`m unemplyed because of that child with disabilities thing going on - but before that I was a translator/interpreter.

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Does it bother you that I think/thought that?
I just find it interesting that you seem to think it would be natural for someone to share your feelings toward Japan if they`d actually lived here for any significant amount of time.
How long do you consider "long enough"?

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Adoption in Japan: It has plenty to do with your race... and that I can tell you from personal experience. Again not in any written rules but "unofficially" it does... words straight from the administrator.
Then that is an issue with the administrator. I`ve experienced nothing but positive responses from any inquiries. We made the choice not to go ahead with adoption at this specific point simply because of issues with our biological child.

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"if you know where to look and the right path" is ridiculous

There isn't a national infrastructure but the process is realtively the same.
Legally, it isn`t.

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2 to 5 years and then no guarentees is something I can agree on. 2 is really pushing it.
Then look outside Japan. That is how long all the adoptive parents (Japanese) I have encountered have needed to wait. I`ve never heard of anyone receiving a child before 3 or 4.

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But for me being a foreigner ...it will never happen... aside from them writing it in blood and stamping a hanko to the fact...
I guess all those "international" couples I know who adopted a child in Japan must not be real then. I mean, they shouldn`t have been able to do it because one of them was a foreigner, right? I`m really sad to hear you`re ready to simply give up because of the response of one administrator. But it is your choice, I suppose.


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