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Originally Posted by Seanus
Why do you do this, Sinestra? Look at his views as a forum poster and don't bring other Canadians into it. You paint people as national spokesmen and that's wrong. OK, there may be a 'Canadian' position, or 'American' position but these are governmental generally.
Back to the topic, are you callous enough not to apologise, as an American, for Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the loss of innocent life? That's your line of thought. For me, you don't come from that generation and had nothing to do with it. So, as a person and out of humanitarian concerns, can you condemn the then American govt for what they did?
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Know the whole story Seanus before you speak. He and i have had problems and misunderstandings in the past and when we do we settle them on PM. I cut him more slack than most because of his past experiences which you dont know anything about. He made a comment several months ago in another thread that most Canadians feel the way he does. I was curious so i asked and it turns out that is not true at least not among native Canadians he gave me that impression because of the negative rhetoric that he gave. komitsuki is a very intelligent person and there are some world issues that we are never going to agree on mainly because of the age gap i believe.
My issue instead of looking forward trying to make things better we are constantly stuck in the past pointing fingers. Tell me Seanus do you criticize the past actions of your home country? I am very critical of the US and do to my unique up bringing i tend to be a little than most but in a reasonable way. Once again i get a lot of hate out of your post man if you hate thats fine if you dont then im sorry for misunderstanding its hard to gauge someones worth and tone over the net but i am not going to try to change your mind.
Im not going to apologize for the US dropping the bombs I WAS NOT THERE I WAS NOT BORN I DID NOT FIGHT IN IT, the way war was fought then is different than its fought now. Nor would i want a Japanese citizen to apologize to me for Pearl Harbor for the same reason. Thats like me going around and telling every single white person to apologize to me because im black and there is a possibility that your ancestors were slave owners. I am sadden by the loss of life on both sides not just the lives lost in the bombing but in the war in general. War is messy its not meant to be fun in games war is disgusting so we humans would not grow to found of it. The core problem of war on this planet is not nations its humanity. If i follow your way of thinking every nation who has every bombed, fired an arrow or launched a surprised attack should apologize. This will never solve the problems this planet collectively suffers from.
I will not be one sided i will not pretend America is and has been saint but i refuse to sit and watch as people cant even turn their pointing fingers in ward. Iv said this before if you and or anyone else thinks they have the answers to fix whats wrong not in America not in Japan and not in Iran but with the world then get your ass in office and do something about it. No one here has ever had to make a difficult decision that decided the lives and fate of millions. So dont pretend that the leaders of old made a bad decision because you can criticize it. Im sorry Seanus that im not up for you US bashing party but i would rather focus on how to fix current problems then to dwell over something that has happened and cant be changed neither of us were born yet so in return i would not hold a Japanese person born after WWII responsible for Pearl Harbor it ludicrous.
While your at it ask the British to apologize for the multitude of cultures they destroyed and lands they raped during their colonel expansion, including my peoples nation of birth Africa. See how not fair that is?
I take solace in the fact that the bombs were shown to be very deadly and to this day another one has not been dropped.