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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

So it's America's fault that South Korea lacks transperancy? That sounds absurd.

But yes. It's because of the American government. The Law of Persecuting Collaborators for the Japanese Empire before the Korean War was disbanded under the orders by the American government (which is the military government in Seoul) to South Korea. Today's mainstream South Korean politicians are almost all of the pro-Japanese Korean descendants who were bailed out by the American government before the Korean War. Still today, worshiping America blindly because America is the overgenerous patron who corrupted them more than before.

Edit: fixed... tricky Korean translation and added more comments.

You're talking about one administration. And I think we have different ideas as to what is functional.

BTW, it's more than one administration. It's an ironic South Korean tradition. Let's also include the undemocratic dictatorship of Park Chung-hee approved by the American government.

Oh FFS... My point was that you seem to have isolated a particular issue when there are much broader things to take into account. It's kind of like the way Americans say Japan started World War 2 as though nothing before that mattered.

FFS? Ad hominem? Not worth discussing.

Oh you're talking reactors.

And North Korea got its final phase of nuclear technologies from researching those reactors handed by the American government.

I think you haven't understood what I've said. The checks and balances being the mechanisms in which Japanese people are able to have a say in things including the legal system. As I see it in China... people have very little say if at all.

And you said that Because generally speaking I'm under the impression that the average Japanese citizen is far removed from politics at the national level. Or is my impression the one that needs changing? in your previous post and MMM said Unfortunately, I think your perception is the reality. It is too bad the Japanese people aren't more politically active.

http://www.japanforum.com/forum/japa...he-resign.html

China's new found wealth is due to liberalisation of Chinese society.

But it is still Socialism with Chinese Characteristics... in reality it is another form of authoritarian.

Ideas don't have nationalities.

But ideas do have culture based on its society.

Aside from the fact that the point you're trying to make doesn't address mine.... Meritocratic? Who decides what merit is? Democracy is more meritocratic because merit is decided by the people's interests.

But too bad that democracy is based on liberal market economy. I never think democracy is based on meritocratic.

I drew parallels with other regions because your argument is exactly the same.

No, this is why I explained the situation I know the most, East Asia.

Or don't you think the Middle East and Africa have cultures?

Ad hominem? Ouch.

Again... you make the mistake of thinking that merit is something that is decided from above.

Confucianism doesn't work only in one way. Like 三綱五倫.

You know Robert Mugabe makes a similar argument.

I told you, I reduced to the situations in East Asia.

No I'm well aware of what you're saying. I've heard similar arguments before. I've also heard counter arguments to that too.. and guess where the counter arguments came from? They came from Asia.

Funny. I heard many similar Asian anti-democratic arguments by Westerners who are very familiar with Asian politics and once lived there for several years.

Former SK President Lee writes a good essay on why the argument that democracy can't work in Asia is erroneous.

You mean the former Rhee Syngman? There is only one former South Korean president that had a last name of Lee (or Rhee) and he was an undemocratic bastard later on. You know he got kicked out of South Korea and moved to Hawaii because of the massive undemocratic corruptions. How hypocritical. I laughed, Ronin, I laughed so hard.