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Originally Posted by iPhantom
You're so wrong. I'm not naive at all. If you say we MUST have had a creator, then it's safe to apply them to the whole tree. I'm talking based on logic. What you said is an example of religious fallacies that religious people say all the time (I don't know if you are or not but I'm just saying your argument is something created by them to justify the existence of God).
Als you ask me do you know what's the very first source when on my quote I wrote there is no first source? I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
You're making a rule that everything that we see now has a creator and apply it to some nonsense which does not need a creator? This is just dumb. And your elements explanation, that is what religion and old philosophers said, modern science is different File:Particle overview.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia =D
the theory that we always existed is very well thought. I guess you need to check it out. |
I didn't mess anything up, you're just the one who does not understand it.
All things must have a source. There's no well thought through theory that things have always just existed. If there is, I challenge you to explain it. That is as daft as claiming a pile of dog shit can exist without any dogs around. It pretty much is the same exact thing.
There's only one element that can exist without a source and can exist without a dimension to exist in.
If you want to stand there and ask yourself where eggs came from all day, then answer they came from chickens... which lay more eggs... which make more chickens... so on and so on, you're a bit of an idiot if you don't ask yourself where the first chicken came from... you're even more stupid if you tell yourself it's another egg...
People like you, I don't think they understand the whole product thing; products have producers. There's nothing in this world that does not have a parent element.
If you talk about elements aside the Void (so any particle) existing before the Big Bang, then clearly the Big Bang was not the first moment of creation, and there's another moment you'll be searching to answer what produced these products.
I think the idea that shit has always just existed is thought up by people not very clever. I heard once someone said why can't the planets always just have existed, why do they need to have been created. Pretty daft thing to say. Dirt can only be made by Fire. Thus, one time, there had to be a fire... keep tracing.
I made this so you can better understand what I was talking about before:
The cycle looks continuos. That is only to explain our planet. At some stage, on the larger scale, it's inevitable that there was only Void, and nothing else.