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08-25-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleGoetz View Post
You are ignoring a simple fact: you learn a language to communicate with people, not textbook-correct grammatical robots. If people say "he don't," then you must learn it at some point.

Prescriptively, yes, "he don't" is incorrect. However, descriptively, it is correct.

Whatever "correct" means for you. If you think about it, the only way you judge correctness in a language is based on how people use it, not how some dictionary tells you to speak.

People stuck in your rigid mindset have the most problems learning languages. "Wait, my textbook says XXX, so why do people use YYY???" Simple: Your textbook or study materials are rigidly focused on teaching "essay language" and not "how people actually talk language."

In other words, your textbook be wrong, yo

On a side note: Even in Texas, "ain't" is taught as 100% wrong usage when in fact "ain't" is the correct contraction for "am not" (well, technically "an't" was the original, but you catch my drift). One example of people with too rigid grammatical rules ruining words.

Another stupid rule is "don't put prepositions at the end of a sentence." This rule was invented in only about 100 years ago or so when teachers were trying to import Latin grammatical rules into English.

Regardless, such a rule is one up with which I shall not put.
It's not rigid it's just called speaking the language correctly. Also 'am not' is only used in the first person perspective meaning ain't is incorrect as you would use I'm instead. Plus it's not about one text book saying one thing and another textbook saying something else I was asking about how common uses of the different thing. The difference between じゃありません / ではありません and he don't / he doesn't is that even if one isn't commonly used or sounds a little weird both じゃありません and ではありません make sense grammatically but 'he don't' doesn’t.

Also I don't have problems learning the language I just want to get it right first then I can worry about slang and dialects after I can speak it correctly. There is a difference between complete incoherent garbage and slang or casual speak.
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