[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by minminRW

Ozkai,
Whales are intelligent as well as cows, pigs or kangaroos.

Actually whales, dolphins, primates and humans are the among the few species in the world that show signs of self-consciousness (i.e. aware of their existence)

Originally Posted by minminRW

Ronin4hire,
Anti-whaling countries are very ones exploiting a loophole.
IWC was set in order to enforce international agreement "International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling", that aims beneficial use of whale resources.
This agreement is not for natural conservation, and IWC is not a committee of natural conservation.
Anti-whaling countries must leave IWC but they stay and hinder logical discussion.
I quote one article from "Hiraganatimes".
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The IWC's scientific committee said that there was no problem in resuming commercial whaling within a catch quota of several thousand minke whales per year.
But the IWC paid no attention to this scientific evidence and rejected the request to resume whaling.
In 1993, the chairman of the scientific committee resigned saying, "I can't remain in this organization because they neglected the management scheme to which we have spent our precious time."

Whatever the original mission of the IWC... It's the only forum with which any consensus on the issue can be made.

Japan can leave.. but it won't because it doesn't want this issue to escalate. The United States is on the side of anti-whaling after all so any attempt to defy this consensus on the part of the Japanese will only get the Americans against you.

Originally Posted by minminRW

These facts mean Anti-whaling is neither scientific nor world consensus.

You're not listening... I don't trust Japan to adhere to any sort of quota system (because of whaling lobby groups). I agree whale hunting can be done sustainably.. (I don't think it can be done economically.. and nor do many Japanese politicians)

Rethinking Japan's whaling practices - upiasia.com

"After broadly considering the national interest, Japan should drop its ocean-going research whaling,” wrote Taniguchi in the February edition of Wedge magazine. “Instead, it should revive its deficit-ridden coastal whaling and find a way to keep the sales channels and food culture of eating whale meat."

Originally Posted by minminRW

Japan is not western country, one special exception that stay in advanced countries in the world under western hegemony.
(I can refer many example about it but don't.)

You call pro-whaling people "Lobbyist", then I call anti-whaling people "Lobbyist".
I cannot trust anti-whaling "Lobbyist".

I agree Japan is not a Western country... but it is part of the "Political North". (A term used to describe the system of powerful industrialised countries).

In fact Japan is a closer ally to the United States than many other Western countries including my country which is culturally Western (New Zealand). So please stop with this lie about "Western hegemony". (It's American hegemony)

You can call us what you like. We have the interest of the environment on our side. Your side just wants to make money.