[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by minminRW

Ronin4hire,
You are using too many excuse such as "whatever","after all"or"it is not a valid argument" to continue logical discussion.

Because your pointing these facts out is not relevant to the position I'm taking.

Originally Posted by minminRW

You have not proved anything. Almost all mammal may have self-consciousness.

Dolphins definitely have it. Whales display signs of it. All other mammals may be self aware... but they do not display such signs. This is a scientific fact.

Originally Posted by minminRW

No there are many committee or agreement for natural conservation. (UNEP, UNCLOS, ITLOS, etc. )
This fact prove "Exploiting a loophole" of Anti-whaling country.

They would come to the same conclusion also. What's your point? Whatever forum you enter I'm pretty sure that most of the International community would be against Japanese commercial whaling.

Originally Posted by minminRW

I said Anti-whaling country must leave.
You are just saying that Japan is under American hegemony.(I agree to it.)

Anti-whaling countries have every right to be in the forum in my opinion. I think everyone who has a vested interest in the protection of the ocean should be allowed in the forum.

Originally Posted by minminRW

Japan needs whale meat sustainably, you do not need to worry about.

>(because of whaling lobby groups).
You are saying Japanese people are brutal and anti-democracy, Are you all right?

Japan whaling industry needs profit.

And where did I say Japanese people are brutal and anti-democracy? Lobby groups are worst in the United States of America. I've already given you an example of the Israeli lobby group restricting the ability of the US government to put pressure on Israel to halt settlements in the Gaza strip for example (Hopefully Obama can change that). Lobby groups are a flaw of capatalist societies. Japan AND the West are all capitalist societies. Money is power. So I'm criticising the West in the exact same way when I refer to lobby groups.

Originally Posted by minminRW

Again, this means Japan is under American hegemony.

In a broader sense yes. In the forum of nations that is the IWC... Japan has a vote.

Originally Posted by minminRW

I have found you are racist because you take Japanese as "Economic animal".

I found you are stupid because you cannot distinguish that I'm talking about the whaling industry and not Japanese people. Industry exists to make a profit first.