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09-03-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by minminRW View Post
Ronin4hire,
I have found you cannot discuss logically.

I had showed you below.
-The IWC scientific committee said that there was no problem in resuming commercial whaling.
-IWC is not appropriate committee for banning whaling. So Anti-whaling countries are exploiting a loophole.
-Japan is still under Western hegemony.(You said "American" but it is same for me.)
-Traditional whaling practiced by USA is crueller and more dangerous for nature than modern one.
Apart from the idea that Japan is under Western hegemony (You can't understand the difference between Western countries?... it's like saying China Korea and Japan are the same...)

I don't dispute any of these other facts you gave me... you're not listening though.

You forgot to add to the part I bolded...

- The IWC scientific committee said that there was no problem in resuming commercial whaling. As long as Japan hunts to specific quotas. I've already shown you evidence that Japan's whaling industry is heavily subsidised. Therefore I cannot trust the Japanese (or anybody) to adhere to the quotas when money is involved. It's as simple as that.

Furthermore Japan does not need to hunt whales.

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Originally Posted by minminRW View Post
You have not answer below.
-The reason that Whales and dolphins are more intelligent than other mammals.
"Signs"you said are not found in official committees including IWC.
-The reason that Anti-whaling countries act in IWC instead of UNEP etc.
-The reason that you insist "traditional whaling" by USA is sustainable.
-Why Japanese modern whaling is not "Traditional".
-Why modern people must not eat whale meat.
These were answers to specific points you made. If you cannot make the connection then that is your problem with English perhaps.

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Originally Posted by minminRW View Post
As for "territorial water"and "international water"
-"The Cove"movies are picked up dolphin hunting in Japan.(This is bloody but traditional.)
This may be main problem of this thread.
-Japan is still inhibited whaling even in Japanese territory.
-International water does not belong to any country. All countries have rights equally. Japan and other whaling country have the right of whaling under certain control.
I'm pretty sure that Japan is only prohibited to hunt whale commercially in it's own waters.

You are right.. all countries have rights. Japan has the right to be a part of any decision making process regarding the open ocean. Your problem is that you want Japan to have more rights than other countries.

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Originally Posted by minminRW View Post
You said "We have the interest of the environment on our side. Your side just wants to make money."
Though I did not said about money in this discussion, you said that.
It indicates that you look down on Japanese as greed animal.
I said Anti-whaling NPOs are getting huge donation in the name of that.
I think your saying is just plain rude.

I have not said anything bad about Japanese people. The only thing I'm saying is that I don't trust commercial interests to respect the environment. It doesn't matter if it's Japan or Norway or USA. I feel the same way about other issues.

I'm studying Japanese language and I am going to Japan for exchange and I am really looking forward to it. I have many Japanese friends.

I have not said anything bad about Japanese people. You just twist my words so that you can pretend I am the "evil Westerner" and so you can ignore the things I'm saying.

Here are some friends and I
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