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Originally Posted by pumpum

Lmao Lmao Lmao Lmao, i think that without even getting into the debate that is the height of Hypocrisy lol !

btw - its not extreme right wingers, its just the right - its now a main population of the US.

I think disrespecting the office of the president to that degree is pretty extreme. And obviously the right wing is not growing but shrinking. Though you could say extreme thinking is growing on the right thanks, in part, to radical radio talk show hosts who now are like pitbulls now that their party is not in the president's seat.

Originally Posted by Sangetsu

MMM, the elections in 2000 and 2004 controversial, but to say that there was no clear winner is also an example of political bias. People will believe what they wish to believe, and will do so regardless of reality.

The mission of our schools is not to teach kids to help the president. The mission is to teach kids to help themselves. If they can't help themselves, than how can they be expected to help anyone else?

I have seen other examples of world leaders asking school children to help them. It was official policy for the likes of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.

I didn't say there was no clear winner, Sangetsu, I said "initially" it wasn't clear who won. They were very close races. I am not one of those that would argue that Bush Jr. did not win both of those elections.

I agree the mission of our schools is not to teach kids to help the president. That assignment is off the table, so I don't think it is a point of debate any longer. I do think it is fair to say I think it is a mission of American public schools to teach children the importance of leadership, the power that mayors, governors, senators, and presidents have, and to respect those offices. I think it also is a teachable moment to say even if we do not like the man or like his ideas, we should still respect the accomplishment of reaching that office and the position itself.

The same is true in sports. You may not like your coach, or like his decisions, but it is important to respect his position and his responsibilities.

I have a feeling a lot of this speech on Tuesday will be about telling kids to help themselves.

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

Yes, when ever a state leader wants to "discuss things with your children" people should naturally be suspicious. Wether folks want to admit it or not, the "Hitler youth" and every other child program instituted by some "gifted leader" or other, ( Mao, Stalin, Kim Il.) wasn't about boy scouts.

Besides, Bush #1 recieved the same kinda flack from Democrats over his live TV appearance for kids back in 91, and he didn't have a questionare included.

Hooray! Hitler has again been introduced into the conversation. Goodwin's Law is alive and well.

And paranoia is alive and well. Obama (a father of two) cares about children....that is some suspicious behavior all right.

I wonder if we would be saying these things if Hillary Clinton had won and was doing the same thing...or John McCain had won and wanted to encourage students to stay in school...

Again, obviously the president is doing something right if this is the issue the right is trying to nail him on.