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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire
Oh FFS...
Rescuing GM and bailing out and regulating the banks (the only regulation he seems to be implementing that I'm aware of seems to be to control all the bailout money being given to them so that it's used as intended.... not an unreasonable thing to do), and nationalising health care doesn't make him a socialist. Nor does banning secret ballot votes for unions in itself or supporting something that the Socialist party also happens to support. (Though admittedly I know nothing about these incidents)
In any case such things are not unprecedented in liberal Democratic countries. In fact didn't George W Bush approve the original stimulus package? Why isn't he a socialist? At the very least he betrayed his free market principles...
Untill Obama completely announces his plans to centralise the US economy and to make the US a one party state then your socialist tag fails.
It seems to me that a belief that any sort of government intervention could be beneficial makes someone a socialist in America...
News flash... it doesn't. It just means that they're not a free-market fundamentalist.
Furthermore the socialist tag is simply a buzzword used by right wing Americans to scare the ignorant and stupid (of which there seems to be a lot of) into associating Obama with Stalin and Mao. It's such a ridiculuous strategy.... but more ridiculuous is that it works and people like you who claim to be educated perpetuate it.
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You admit the you know nothing about these incidents, yet claim I'm the one that should "educate" myself? Amazing.
And Obama isn't stupid, he's going for the Khrushchev method. Since I'm sure you don't know what that is either, I'll explain. Khrushchev said: “
You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright; but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of Socialism until you will finally wake up and find that you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you; we will so weaken your economy until you fall like overripe fruit into our hands.” That is Obama's plan, to wreck our economy with massive debt and inflation (due to his unprecedented spending and increases in the money supply), and then "Only government can save you".
It's like boiling a frog, if you've heard that anecdote. If you throw a frog into boiling water, it'll jump right out. But if you put it into warm water and slowly turn up the heat, it will stay in and get cooked. Your line (I'm paraphrasing) amounts to "he's not a socialist until we are in boiling water, and it's not quite boiling yet..." reminded me of that story.