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clintjm, I won't harp on individual points, because I agree with what you are saying more than disagreeing.

Healthcare in the US is fundamentally flawed. I know it because I have seen it with my own two eyes. I know people that fly to Japan to get medical procedures done because the insurance they pay for refuses to treat them and it is cheaper to buy a plane ticket and fly to Japan to get medical help than it is to do it here.

No other industrialized nation in the world has no national health plan. Are they all perfect? Far from it...but some are better than others. Regardless, what we have now stinks. It's partially because of our litigious nature, but health care are too high for the average American to pay for them. As a result we all end up paying more. SOMETHING needs to be done. I don't think the president is saying "my way or the highway"...he said the very opposite last Wednesday. But I agree killing his plan for the sake of killing it is not an option unless you have an alternative strategy. Enough of not facing the health care issue.