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09-18-2009, 02:15 AM

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And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food. : Genesis 1:29

"I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more." (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. Revelations 22:1-2


"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man." Mat. 15:11

Cannabis
any plant of the genus Cannabis; a coarse bushy annual with palmate leaves and clusters of small green flowers; yields seeds and tough fibers, if chewed or smoked produces a euphoric effect
Calamus is translated as a sweet cane, not cannabis. Even then anointing oil is NOT consumed is it?

calamus - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

* Main Entry: cal·a·mus
* Pronunciation: \ˈka-lə-məs\
* Function: noun
* Inflected Form(s): plural cal·a·mi \-ˌmī, -ˌmē\
* Etymology: Latin, reed, reed pen, from Greek kalamos — more at haulm
* Date: 14th century

1 a : sweet flag b : the aromatic peeled and dried rhizome of the sweet flag that is the source of a carcinogenic essential oil
2 : the hollow basal portion of a feather below the vane : quill

I also don't believe that calamus (also known as sweet flag) is apart of the cannabis family.

NOTICE- This was risen on whither Christianity support such and such, thus everything after that comes from a Christian point of view.

These verses are not new. They are almost always found together to support this, to which they are taken out of context. Why are two separate verses in the same paragraph?

Gen 1:29
Genesis also has several things we cannot do today (walk around naked, without lusting, have a perfect tropical environment, and not sin). It was before Adam and Eve committed sin, certain things had a different meaning. At that point everything was pure, and good, until sin entered the world and corrupted everything. Adam and eve was made in God's image, then when they sinned that image was corrupted. Same applies to everything else on the earth. Most undoubtedly certain/all things had a different purpose/meaning before the fall.

Mat. 15:11
This is the verse that is taken out of context (it's a parable). First read verse 2 (Matthew 15:2). Pharisees at the time had a tradition of washing there hands if they had contact with a gentile (non-Jew). Thus Jesus responds with verse 11. Verse 15 is in which Peter asks Jesus to explain the parable. This is what he meant.

16And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?

17Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

18But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

20These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.


Revelations 22:1-2
I don't believe a cannabis plant is a tree which bears fruit. Not to mention this was the verse in your previous post that Gnostics refer to. I don't see how this verse relates to cannabis, when the description doesn't even fit.

Ezekiel 34:29
Interesting, how do yo automatically assume it's cannabis?

It could be read two ways. One being a messianic prophecy or plantation of renown. (not plant, translation is off).

All the Divine Names and Titles in ... - Google Books

Pg 217 and 218.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body

Galatians 5:19-21
Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God

Sorcery is Greek for pharmakeia, from which the English word pharmacy comes from. Point is, against using drugs. Note you have to look at the context of the usage of the word also (this word belongs to a family of words). Each time it is used in the new testament it is used in a negative sense. It always refers to those who use poisons, mix drugs, or use drugs. In simple terms drug abuse.

Christians are to OBEY the law of the land.
Deuteronomy 17:2; Ecclesiastes 8:2-5; Matthew 22:21; 23:2-3; Romans 13:1-7; Titus 3:1; 1 Peter 2:13-17; 2 Peter 2:9-11


Chrsitains are allowed to choose what to do what they want, but WILL suffer consequences.

Galatians 5:13
For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another

1 Peter 2:16
Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God

1 Corinthians 6:12
"Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything.

2 Peter 2:18-19
For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error, promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.


1 Corinthians 10: 31-33
31 Whether therefore ye eat or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give none offense, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God. 33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.