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Originally Posted by clintjm

Thanks... I think.

You're welcome. I may not agree, but that's a bigger topic than two people on an Internet forum are going to solve.

Originally Posted by clintjm

People are relating Obama to the government for some reason.
Both sides are dividing the nation.

I understand the president is the face of the country's government, and I am not denying that. I try and say "Bush administration" and "Obama administration" but I am sure you can find plenty of times when I am talking about the man himself, intentionally or not.

However, I sense something different going on at this time in the country, and I wish I could say I was the first to mention it, but I have heard talk show hosts from a variety of backgrounds say that the level of disdain some people are feeling for this president...the man himself...not only what he represents, has reached some disturbing heights. Samurai will turn around and say "But look at San Francisco! Then burned Bush in effigy!" And that did happen in a very limited scale. But what I am seeing is a slow boil of hatred spilled out to literally millions of Americans for hours and hours every day through several huge media sources. I worry a little this focus on the man, specifically, and not the administration has already led to guns being brought to town hall meetings, and I hate to imagine what would happen if it continues to the points those guns get loaded and the safetys are clicked off.

You can say both sides are divisive, and on the extreme ends that is probably true, but how some of the extremists on the right (Rush, Beck, etc.) are essentially preaching the evil of Obama the man worries me.

Originally Posted by clintjm

Impeaching isn't going to happen for any president - not today. Again the too big to fail mindset of the past decades.

The average Joe etc calling the morning zoo usually hasn't got their arguments together or are not conveyed properly... time constraints of talk radio (or the host) won't allow it or they just want to put a voice to their frustrations...

Believing he didn't do anything to deserve the nobel peace prize, and the "He is a extreme socialists and is making rash decisions too quickly" are not mutually exclusive. But I got your point.

The fact is though, it goes both ways. The "get out of our way" theme from government recently is dividing the nation well too.

I agree, impeachment is not going to happen. However, this wasn't an "average joe" it was right-wing consultant Floyd Brown. He is famous for designing the "Willie Horton" ads that helped sink Dukakis.

This is his website.

Impeach Obama Campaign

You can say both sides are divisive. But I think this is getting into "dangerous".

At the very least, fire a shot across the bow... a shot that will be heard around the world... and send Barack Hussein Obama a clear and unmistakable message that he does not have carte blanche to ruin the United States of America.

We’re now in the middle of a bloodless coup – the takeover of an entire nation by the hate-America crowd –

Does he simply hate Christianity... does he hate the United States... or both?

I know this is not the view of anyone here, but is just an example of the extreme messages that are being presented against not the Obama administration, but the man himself.