I don't understand why anybody has a problem with them. I only heard four of there songs so far but I find that they have a good guitarist along with a good singer. I prefer them over Lanb of God any day! I like all of the songs I have heard so far. I've heard Teenagers, I'm Not Okay (I Promise), Helena, and Famous Last Words. Helena is a slow and mournful song because the Way brothers wrote it in honor of they're late grandmother!